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Title: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 02, 2008, 04:43:59 PM
VonStern Magazine: July 2008:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=Drones&action=display&num=1215012558

The Drones of California and Quantum Physics

--VonStern
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 06, 2008, 01:03:07 AM
VonStern Magazine September 2008 Issue:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=Drones&action=display&num=1220655964

The Large Hadron Collider

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on September 06, 2008, 08:18:55 PM
VonStern Magazine September 2008 Issue:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=Drones&action=display&num=1220655964

The Large Hadron Collider

LHC scientists receive death threats.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/05/scilhc105.xml (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/05/scilhc105.xml)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 14, 2008, 06:35:49 PM
For everyone who is afraid of being consumed by a black hole created in the Large Hadron Collider (CERN) don't worry.

A black hole is the aftermass of a giant star collapsing into itself, leaving a "singularity" which is the mass of the collapsed star times almost infinite. And compressed into a very heavy substance, not ever seen by any scientist, only calculated theories by the very same. Not observed in realtime either, but it has values that is staggering even for Universe norms.

That cannot happen at CERN, as almost no mass is created in the "Big Bang" experiment. We are talking about the very small - the atom within the atom, so to speak. Even if a singularity was to be created, it still will remain in the very small cosmos, and therfore never would be able to "create" the same amounts of energy that is needed to create a "real" black hole. We simply cannot create such enormous amount of energy here on Earth.

What will occur, is what we see in the very small, has some grid that can explain why and how "real" black holes are created in the Universe. NOT in the Large Hadron Collider, it's merely a sort of microscope, from where we learn.

No worries, I'm sure no "black holes" (they actually are the physisist way to explain lost matter) produced by mankind are able to destroy our Planet.


As for what more exotic findings that come from the experiments, no one knows...but I'm quite sure it does not harm any of us living here on planet Earth today, and in the future.

EVS

This is a hilarious video wide spread on the Internet, It is something that cannot happen, but very fun to watch:

Black Hole on Earth 10/9/2008: THE END OF THE WORLD (?) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlctI1oUxIM#lq-lq2-hq)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on September 14, 2008, 08:27:58 PM
Thanks, Erik,  for posting the video.  Cool.

The only 'black hole'  produced by the Cern machine is the bottomless pit that a ton of money was thrown into for this very dubious and probably useless experiment. 

DOUGLAS

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 14, 2008, 08:58:05 PM
There is nothing in current science that says the "drones" aren't real. Despite serious aspects of debunking, no serious evidence of the "Dragonfly Drones" has emerged.

The witness's photo's may have been manipulated and twisted, but the originals still was recognized by "Isaac", and as his statements now are more and more made plausible, why are we (some) still suggesting it's all a clever hoax?

If assumptions rule, all we know about fission and fusion today would be in the questions among scientists.

Some still try to defy just that.

What is known today as fact.

The difference is only what is confirmed.

The most reliable witnesses has now confirmed that aliens have been here:

Astronauts, that long held their tongue, has openly stated that there are "aliens" among us here on Earth...and still it's denied utterly by naysayers.

Oh, this planet is truly unique. I'm actually going to fall in the hands of the contactees and mediums that says that the aliens will state their affairs on October 14th.

Why not? If we're to trust the naysayers, we are alone in the Universe.

Truth is: We do not know!

So, it's still unknown....and the debate lingers on....

I'm not "on the fence"...I believe that life exists everywhere the conditions allow it. (In Memory of Jens Martin Knudsen, now late astrophysisist of Denmark, who was determined in finding fluid water on Mars).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Martin_Knudsen

I would like to see a concrete evidence of explaining the extraterrestrial presence here on Earth, or the opposite evidence presented in form of undeniable evidence explaining why it's not!

EVS

   
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on September 23, 2008, 10:59:19 PM
LHC shutdown till next spring.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/09/23/collider.wait.spring.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview (http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/09/23/collider.wait.spring.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: leviathan on September 24, 2008, 12:12:55 AM
Intervention from some where?
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Endzone on September 24, 2008, 01:22:44 AM
Funny thing is Lev, I bet that actual scenario has run through many minds since the shut down. ;)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 24, 2008, 05:29:57 PM
Could it be that there's a reason why we shouldn't find out the origin of Our Universe?

And are we not "allowed" to know....and who's to say why?

I'm sure it has nothing to do with safety. It has to be limitations to what we can learn from this experiment showing the birth of the Universe.

Interesting, either way.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: leviathan on September 24, 2008, 07:17:07 PM
The CERN "accident" seems to have been worse than 1st reported.

Also the SUN is not cooperating as it is supposed to.  Do you suppose intervention again and if so by who or what!

The precise interaction of the SUN, EARTH, MOON System is what makes this planet habitable for the Human population.  I will leave it at that.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 24, 2008, 08:41:23 PM
http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=DISC&action=display&num=1222284926&start=0#1222284926

One Life, One Destination

As all humans has looked at the Moon and sometimes wondered what lies beyond...we all are seeking the truth of Our Origin:

Some thinks that the Darwin explanation is the only true way, and others follow the Bible way, the Holy Creation.

Either way, no evidence has been confirmed.

As we look into the very smallest of the matter You and I are built of, the atom within Our cells, giving life on this planet...we really do not know the origin.

One God above All:

All matter is created for the human race to develope (See the "Anthropic Principle") would mean that we should end all science dedicated to excactly the search for the origin of the Universe, as it was created for Us and given Us to prosper and be underlayed this God.

Nature:

If all origin of life is originated by coincidence, we should widen Our search to enrich Our understanding of how this came about.

Result:

What we all seek, is the truth about Our heritage as Humans.

How we come about it is irrelavant, how we determine the answers is everything to the common man.

If we didn't live in a strongly enlightened World Society, how much would spin off to the public? And is it nessesary? The less one know, the less is needed to fear.

Showing the "Doomsday Mashine" (The LHC) as a way of making the way for the "Planet Niburu" and coupling that to the present inactivity of Our Sun, makes a giant wave of believers of ending of the World a step closer to this belief.

However, all this is just a simple answer to what happens in Our lives, as present inhabitants of this Earth, as many civilisations before Us asked themselves the same questions. Only, they didn't have the maschinery to "prove" these theses to be true.

We are presently holders of an answer that was asked in Our far ancestors lives, and shouldn't we make the attempt to look into excactly that, if the means are present?

Just some scientific way of blending in, maybe changing Our beliefs. And ofcourse debatable.

EVS
   
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on September 24, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
The CERN machine will prove nothing.  It's a total waste of time and money.

The celestial authors of the Urantia Book state that even at the Universal Father's [God] residence on the Isle of Paradise there are NO records of the beginning of all creation,  which was thousands of billions of years ago.

DOUGLAS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 24, 2008, 09:37:20 PM
The CERN machine will prove nothing.  It's a total waste of time and money.

The celestial authors of the Urantia Book state that even at the Universal Father's [God] residence on the Isle of Paradise there are NO records of the beginning of all creation,  which was thousands of billions of years ago.

DOUGLAS

So, Douglas - you are satisfied and seek no further answer as to how it came about that you and I now inhabits this planet? And perhaps finding an answer within Our lifetimes?

That is absolutely a qualified answer, and we actually do not need more to live life at it's fullest the time that is Us given here on Earth. Proving my point.

Thanks

Some would give it a go on finding the truth about Our origin, but as you stated maybe funded in another way.

EVS

--o0o--

http://www.skepdic.com/urantia.html

http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=14  (Entire book, even has a listen function)

http://www.religioustolerance.org/urantia.htm
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: leviathan on September 25, 2008, 01:55:03 AM
Be aware that they are working on a much bigger machine.  The ILC (International Linear Collider) which will be a straight line collider with a beam from each end meeting in the middle.  It is proposed to be 31 miles in length.  This machine will take the LHC findings and put them to use!

It is good to see a forum where a person's ideas are truly welcomed for discussion and knowledge.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 26, 2008, 03:40:46 PM
Be aware that they are working on a much bigger machine.  The ILC (International Linear Collider) which will be a straight line collider with a beam from each end meeting in the middle.  It is proposed to be 31 miles in length.  This machine will take the LHC findings and put them to use!

It is good to see a forum where a person's ideas are truly welcomed for discussion and knowledge.
L E V I A T H A N

You could't be more right. A debate is a place where differencies of opinion comes forward. Otherwise it would be argumenting. Mudslinging does not help the positive outcome of a debate.

If I have an opinion that differs from others, I present it in a non offensive way, and if I have hit a nerve somewhere, hopefully there will be a response.

I'm quite sure Douglas wouldn't throw mud at me for stating my belief, if I present it, we're just as good buddies as ever (I hope! ;D). I just might have a different opinion that the one he has. The difference is, that I respect Douglas in his belief.

Some out there should stop and think a bit before slinging mud towards anyone, it just might be a much wider forum would pay attention if one's opinion is presented in a more positive way.

In addition to that, some new things has developed worldwise, at least at SETI:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=LIFE&action=display&num=1222421871

And in the Cropcircle department:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=CRP&action=display&num=1222423497

Now, if you wish to share your thoughts regarding some of this, I'm sure it'll be welcomed both here at the DRT and of course at

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=DISC

Have a nice weekend, sceptics, believers and fencesitters.

EVS


Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on September 26, 2008, 04:16:26 PM
No problem, EVS.  My opinion is that the collider is not a good science project.  That's just an opinion that I hold.  Nothing personal is meant towards anyone . 

I am all for science research into the the origin of everything.  Again, it's just my opinion that some areas of research aren't going to achieve the desired results.  Maybe I will be proven wrong.  Time will tell.

On that same note, there are some Forum members that have ideas about the Drones that I disagree with and others that I agree with.  People have posted  on both sides of issues.  As Lev says that what the debate is all about.  Nothing personal is intended.

I used to think that the Alien Autopsy film, circa 1995,  was 100% true but now I have some serious doubts about the authenticity of parts of it.  I may end up with egg on my face. :)  Oh well.

DOUGLAS


Be aware that they are working on a much bigger machine.  The ILC (International Linear Collider) which will be a straight line collider with a beam from each end meeting in the middle.  It is proposed to be 31 miles in length.  This machine will take the LHC findings and put them to use!

It is good to see a forum where a person's ideas are truly welcomed for discussion and knowledge.
L E V I A T H A N

You could't be more right. A debate is a place where differencies of opinion comes forward. Otherwise it would be argumenting. Mudslinging does not help the positive outcome of a debate.

If I have an opinion that differs from others, I present it in a non offensive way, and if I have hit a nerve somewhere, hopefully there will be a response.

I'm quite sure Douglas wouldn't throw mud at me for stating my belief, if I present it, we're just as good buddies as ever (I hope! ;D). I just might have a different opinion that the one he has. The difference is, that I respect Douglas in his belief.

Some out there should stop and think a bit before slinging mud towards anyone, it just might be a much wider forum would pay attention if one's opinion is presented in a more positive way.

In addition to that, some new things has developed worldwise, at least at SETI:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=LIFE&action=display&num=1222421871

And in the Cropcircle department:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=CRP&action=display&num=1222423497

Now, if you wish to share your thoughts regarding some of this, I'm sure it'll be welcomed both here at the DRT and of course at

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=DISC

Have a nice weekend, sceptics, believers and fencesitters.

EVS



Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 26, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
I stand reassured.

Thank you Douglas  :)

EVS

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 26, 2008, 08:22:59 PM
What surprises me, is why no one here is asking themselves the most core question? Why are we here? Why do we see these "Drones"? And why is it now? So many questions...and no answers.

I must admit, that it is somewhat philosofical questions, and the majority are afraid to look like fools openly expressing just that.

I can tell you, that even the scientific world are now narrowing their search to include "less likely" (in their terms) ideas as it seems that plausible explanations might not be so far "off", as earlier believed.

The more we learn, the more earlier dismissed thoughts are up for trial.

Provided it has scientific relavance, of course.

Lots of "scientific relavance" is present here at DRT.

Never underestimate your idea, best is revealing any idea that comes to mind.

It then can be proved or disproved, but never loose the urge to ask.

EVS




Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: spinnewise on September 26, 2008, 10:07:22 PM
There are more devices on our planet that may produce unexpected side effects.
For example the Z-machine.
Or the most powerful magnet on earth (100 Tesla!)
which is located in Germany near Dresden:
http://www.fzd.de/db/Cms?pOid=10363&pNid=245&pContLang=en (http://www.fzd.de/db/Cms?pOid=10363&pNid=245&pContLang=en)
If we would draw a map with diagrams of those machines would it look like another LAP?
Spaceship Earth may be approaching her destination.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on September 27, 2008, 12:32:12 AM
What surprises me, is why no one here is asking themselves the most core question? Why are we here? Why do we see these "Drones"? And why is it now? So many questions...and no answers.

Isaac says it was likely accidental.  The decloaker was given to us (US scientific/military only?) but does not understand why and given by a faction that may not be the same as the drones came from.
Quote
Much like the technology in these crafts themselves, the device capable of remotely hijacking a vehicle's clacking comes from a non-human source too. Why we were given this technology has never been clear to me, but it's responsible for a lot. Our having access to this kind of device, along with our occasionally haphazard experimentation on them, has lead to everything from cloaking malfunctions like this to full-blown crashes. I can assure you that most (and in my opinion all) incidents of UFO crashes or that kind of thing had more to do with our meddling with extremely powerful technology at an inopportune time than it did mechanical failure on their part. Trust me, those things don't fail unless something even more powerful than them makes them fail (intentionally or not).
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: leviathan on September 27, 2008, 02:07:35 AM
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Trust me, those things don't fail unless something even more powerful than them makes them fail (intentionally or not).

I believe this is true of all supposed crashes of the Phenomena we call UFOs.  They crash for a reason other than any human interference.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on September 27, 2008, 04:41:03 AM
The Roswell crash occurred not long after the introduction of RADAR that had circular polarization. If, as I believe, that UFO's shape the atmosphere around them by microwaves, (and thus are able to fly without heat or sonic booms), then we may have crashed their craft by accident and they had not yet learned to fly with this new RADAR adaptation. I'm also sure they quickly adapted to this, yet we may have adapted a directed microwave weapon from this as well. Perhaps this then precipitated a meeting between the aliens and us to forestall an escalation in confrontations between the aliens and us.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 29, 2008, 11:40:15 AM
Very interesting (free!) documentary:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=COSM&action=display&num=1222684314

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 17, 2008, 11:50:29 PM
http://droneacademy.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=Drones&action=display&num=1224282125

VonStern Magazine October Issue (2008)

Full Disclosure Of Extra Terrestrial Intelligent Life Is Forthcoming In Near Future


EVS

Happy birthday, Spinnewise!
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: spinnewise on October 23, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
Thank you EVS.
A whole lot of interesting stuff to read you have on your site.
Thank you for this too.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 29, 2008, 07:30:43 PM
Thank you Spinnewise.

If you all have the time, please take a look at the youtubes at my frontpage:

http://droneacademy.conforums.com/

And tell me if you see what I see....

Is it a Drone fighting the wind, and is it similar to the Stephenville sighting?

Could it be the nozzles of a Drone emitting force? Or?

EVS

Ps: Onthefence, you are very good at capturing stills from youtube videos, please have a go on these 2 videos.  ;)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS2 on November 06, 2008, 06:24:44 AM
I apologize for the deletion of the Drone Academy.

It was just too much for me to maintain, as I will need to spend alot more time with my family in the future.

I knew I needed to cut back my Forum activities at some point.

Thanks,

EVS2
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Diouf on November 06, 2008, 05:42:13 PM

Good to have you back EVS2 :)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS2 on November 07, 2008, 05:00:31 PM

Good to have you back EVS2 :)

Thanks, Diouf - glad to be back among friends  ;)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: guerande on November 08, 2008, 04:14:26 PM
Hi EVS2 ,

just impossible to register : an error is occuring each time I try to ...
Tks to tell  if you are under " maintenance " ?
Cheers !
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS2 on November 09, 2008, 09:18:27 AM
Hi EVS2 ,

just impossible to register : an error is occuring each time I try to ...
Tks to tell  if you are under " maintenance " ?
Cheers !

Hi Guerande

You should be able to login now. Thanks for letting me know!  ;)

Cheers!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS2 on November 13, 2008, 09:39:30 PM
New topic added at the Paranormal Institute:

http://stern.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=DRE&action=display&num=1226608336

Dreams

I would like all to contribute, if you have had a special dream you want to share.

It's actually a serious study, and I'm very pleased if you tell your story.

Regards,

EVS

Ps: You can use an alternative screen name.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: salem on November 23, 2008, 07:47:13 PM
Please tell me if a dream story goes here or some other format.  thanks.Salem
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS2 on November 24, 2008, 06:57:58 AM
Please tell me if a dream story goes here or some other format.  thanks.Salem

Hi Salem!

You can submit your dream story here:
http://stern.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=YDR

You should be able to start a new thread. (And if there's not enough room in your first post, simply reply your own post and continue there!)

Thank you,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 15, 2009, 07:37:06 PM
Some new science updates from VonStern Magazine:


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126911.300-our-world-may-be-a-giant-hologram.html

Our world may be a giant hologram

--o0o--

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jan/HQ_M09-005_Mars_Update.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040330092327.htm

Evidence of life on Mars is found as Methane is found in the Mars Atmosphere.

--o0o--

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 02, 2009, 11:13:50 PM
The release of my theory "The Shadow Universe" will probably astound You, as I am going to present a full explanation of how we might "survive" our own death, as it seems that we're beings of light (electromagnetic waves) from the day we are born to this physical world. And remain as an "image" in 3D when we depart the excact same.

Hocus-Pocus? No, science provides an answer!

To be released in the spring 2009.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on February 03, 2009, 09:50:36 AM
Yes, Erik, you are quite correct.  We are slated for eternal life.  One can read all about it in The Urantia Book.

Douglas




The release of my theory "The Shadow Universe" will probably astound You, as I am going to present a full explanation of how we might "survive" our own death, as it seems that we're beings of light (electromagnetic waves) from the day we are born to this physical world. And remain as an "image" in 3D when we depart the excact same.

Hocus-Pocus? No, science provides an answer!

To be released in the spring 2009.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 20, 2009, 11:26:08 PM
I have today asked Dr. Kaku to join us, to help with the scientific background of the "California Drones"

http://mkaku.org/

I hope he'll bring something new in here, if he decides to join in.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 06, 2009, 09:53:23 PM
Newsflash! My theory of "The Shadow Universe" has now been verified by NASA! I'm so happy, as it is such a great breakthrough..

A traslation of the most crucial content of my full paper will be available later this month at the Paranormal Institute.

When it is published I'll announce it here.

Not much drone in it, I'm afraid :(

Cheers,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 06, 2009, 10:16:19 PM
If the "Drones" appear randomly and only are becoming visible by accident, then the story has some truth in it. As witnesses will keep coming, it is absolutely relavant that these sightings are recorded. As I sure would like to see the evidence recorded as it preserves evidence if this "hoax" is to be proven true hoax later on, which I seriously doubt. Some of the evidence has clear markings that could show it as real. Remember, if it really is a "whistleblower" we're dealing with, some sources will not rest until it's driven into the ground, and laid to rest. DO NOT BELIEVE the naysayers, it might be disinformation. So far nothing has surfaced, that shows full "hoax" , and if real it is well hidden in the black units taking care of excactly this kind of evidence.

EVS

Edit to add: The actual witnesses may have been contacted before the PI's was able to do the investigation...as even LMH didn't get more answers..perhaps the sources was "killed" and therefor no more action from the "Earthfiles.com"...who is really to say..maybe it was "killed" in the awakening..take that in menté..
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 25, 2009, 10:56:26 PM
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/ (http://public.web.cern.ch/public/)

Holger Bech Nielsen on the Higgs Particle - With Subtitles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOI8byIV_GI#ws)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holger_Bech_Nielsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holger_Bech_Nielsen)


EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 20, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
Stargate opening in Norway, or...

Lights Over Norway: UFO or Military Rocket? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXA8WmFnp8s#)

EVS

Update:

Now the Russians have declared that they haven't launched a rocket, but as we all know it's to be taken with a grain of salt.. ;D

However, the incidence should have been taken care of long before it went into Norwegian air space...and as so must be taken as a "UFO" in view of the Norwegian military, as it sure invaded the territory of Norway..so who are to be blamed?

Some say it's the Sun, I don't think so, even if an unusual break of flares just arrived...but, I certainly have no answer to this..as many scientists have not..

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: JMK on December 25, 2009, 10:48:40 PM
The Norwegan phenomenon of Dec 9 does suggest a malfunctioning rocket. But a similar phenomenon observed from South Africa more than 7 weeks previously may exonerate the Russians. Expanding concentric rings, not spirals though, were seen leaving a star-like, moving object on Oct 18, 2009. And the observers were up to a thousand miles apart.
See:
http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018b.shtml (http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018b.shtml)
http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018a.shtml (http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018a.shtml)
http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018c.shtml (http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018c.shtml)
http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018.shtml (http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/southafrica/091018.shtml)

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on December 27, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
The Israeli's tested their "nuke" off South Africa, maybe they are testing their rocket technologies there too, away from Arab eyes.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 08, 2010, 09:34:43 PM
This is such a great movie!:


The Known Universe by AMNH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U#)


And here you are able to download a program that in 4D shows the known Universe (For free):

http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/universe/download (http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/universe/download)

When downloaded, please ensure darkness in the room, as the full effect shows best in darkness!

Please enjoy,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 13, 2010, 11:25:40 PM
Super magnet underway:

http://www.euronews.net/2009/09/03/super-magnet-project-underway-in-cambridge/ (http://www.euronews.net/2009/09/03/super-magnet-project-underway-in-cambridge/)


UK MAGNET TECHNOLOGY LEADS THE WORLD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obw6qSZdsd4#)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 14, 2010, 10:45:41 AM
The Feb. 27 magnitude 8.8 earthquake in Chile may have shortened the length of each Earth day.

"JPL research scientist Richard Gross computed how Earth's rotation should have changed as a result of the Feb. 27 quake. Using a complex model, he and fellow scientists came up with a preliminary calculation that the quake should have shortened the length of an Earth day by about 1.26 microseconds (a microsecond is one millionth of a second)."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth-20100301.html (http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth-20100301.html)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 31, 2010, 10:50:19 PM
Yesterday it was accomplished to collide (at least) two (2) protons, in the search of the "God Particle", the "Higgs Boson" at CERN, the Large Hadron Collider. It was created at 2x3,5 TeraVolts (TeV). Now several month of studying the results await, to see if the first "real" collision has shown evidence of this long awaited boson. What it will provide, if it is found is the fundamental origin of all mass in Our Universe.

EVS

---oo00oo---

LHC research programme gets underway

Geneva, 30 March 2010. Beams collided at 7 TeV in the LHC at 13:06 CEST, marking the start of the LHC research programme. Particle physicists around the world are looking forward to a potentially rich harvest of new physics as the LHC begins its first long run at an energy three and a half times higher than previously achieved at a particle accelerator.


http://public.web.cern.ch/public/ (http://public.web.cern.ch/public/)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 12, 2010, 10:07:03 PM
Parallel Universes

I've always found it interesting that Our Universe splits, every fraction of a second it divides into new Universes like pages in an infinate book.
Which again means, that every moment of Our life is recorded, in a Parallel Universe, they all together holds all possible actions as every action in this Universe is recorded in another "new" Universe...
 
That's my interpretation of this theory, in Cosmic terms.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 22, 2010, 09:57:02 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse)

EXERPT:

"Fate and the multiverse
Hugh Everett's many-worlds interpretation (MWI), information theory, chaotic inflation theory, as well as the double-slit experiment, point to a multiverse, consisting of an infinite number of verses, inside a finite space. Being that "we" are all inside a finite space, the infinite number of universes are overlapping each other. This could be the reason for the wave function of particles. The Many Worlds Interpretation states, in brief, "one aspect of quantum mechanics is that certain observations cannot be predicted absolutely. Instead, there is a range of possible observations each with a different probability. According to the MWI, each of these possible observations corresponds to a different universe." Each universe has a set of physical rules, but also a set of plans. If "each possible observation corresponds to a different universe" that means, in one universe "A" happened, in another "B" happened, and so on. Each universe has a different set of eventualities that reside within. Given an infinite number of universes, a copy of any given eventuality is bound to exist. This means, not only is there a universe where I am writing this page, there is a universe where I am not writing this page. There is a universe where I am still a child. There is a universe where I have yet to be born. There is a universe where I am typing this page, exactly word for word, error for error. Max Tegmark estimates that such an identical volume should be about 10(10115) meters away. This measure of distance sprouts from an older hypothesis, where our universe is inside an infinite space."


Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA#)

Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 2 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o&feature=channel#)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 26, 2010, 09:40:00 PM
If Aliens Exist,They May Come to Get Us, Stephen Hawking Says

"If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the universe."

Full article:

http://www.space.com/entertainment/stephen-hawking-dangerous-aliens-100426.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+spaceheadlines+%28SPACE.com+Headline+Feed%29 (http://www.space.com/entertainment/stephen-hawking-dangerous-aliens-100426.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+spaceheadlines+%28SPACE.com+Headline+Feed%29)

--o0o--

http://www.hawking.org.uk/ (http://www.hawking.org.uk/)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3340426/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-probably-exist.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3340426/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-probably-exist.html)

--o0o--

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 26, 2010, 10:13:30 PM
http://www.asu.edu/ (http://www.asu.edu/)

"Is telepathy possible? How about teleportation or starships? In this lecture, Dr. Michio Kaku (a frequent host on science shows for the Discovery Channel, PBS, and author of the best selling book "Physics of the Impossible") talks about many popular technologies in science fiction from a physics perspective, and what it would take to make many of these technologies a reality.

SCI FI or SCI FACT is part of a major lecture series at ASU on science presented by Beyond, the Center for Fundamental Concepts in Science. A center at the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, Beyond seeks to create new and exciting ideas that push the boundaries of research and to answer foundational questions in science, and explore their philosophical ramifications what might be called the big questions"


Dr. Michio Kaku: SCI FI or SCI FACT, Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5UcJt6RoIs#ws)

Dr. Michio Kaku: SCI FI or SCI FACT Lecture PART 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m22wDMZzcuc#ws)

Dr. Michio Kaku: SCI FI or SCI FACT Lecture PART 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Llt4GhGnRk#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on April 27, 2010, 07:30:01 PM
If Aliens Exist,They May Come to Get Us, Stephen Hawking Says

"If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the universe."

I think good ole Stephen should stick to black holes because it seems to me he's way behind the curve in ET speculation.

First, I think we already are trying to stay away from ET.  Most people don't even want to consider the idea.  We are more focused on the day to day things of our own little world. Also, the PTB make sure we get nowhere near ET.  Second, are they already here and have been since before we were here.

I still stand with Isaac (whether you believe he's a real person or not) because his words make the most sense.  We have nothing to fear from ETs coming to annihilate us for two reasons.  First, if they wanted to they would have done it long ago and secondly, there are plenty of other planets out there to go after instead.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Nodnunk on April 28, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
Stephen Hawking's speculations has one key statement.

â??To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational,â?

This will help to remove the stigma attached to the subject of aliens in mainstream science. Because Stephen Hawking says it is a perfectly rational pursuit, his stature will make it so.


Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 06, 2010, 10:22:12 PM
On the trail of dark matter

The planets, stars and galaxies that we observe make up only 4% of the Universe. The rest is a mixture of matter that remains unseen - 'dark' matter (26%) - and dark energy (about 70%). The LHC experiments have the potential to discover new particles that could explain what dark matter is.

(http://public.web.cern.ch/public/features/100503_ESA.jpg)

A composite image of the Bullet Cluster. Gravitational lensing reveals the extent of dark matter (shown in blue) beyond that of normal matter (hot gas, shown pink). IMAGE: X-ray: NASA / CXC / CfA / M.Markevitch, Optical and lensing map: NASA / STScI, Magellan / U.Arizona / D.Clowe, Lensing map: ESO WFI

Source: http://public.web.cern.ch/public/ (http://public.web.cern.ch/public/)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on May 07, 2010, 06:56:36 PM
Continuing the discussion about Stephen Hawking.

Whitley Strieber has responded to the Hawking announcement with his own take.  In true Whitley fashion, it's a heck of a read.  He talks about reality and physics.  I can see a possible drone relationship in his words.

http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/ (http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 21, 2010, 11:25:32 PM
http://www.jcvi.org/ (http://www.jcvi.org/)

FIRST SELF-REPLICATING SYNTHETIC BACTERIAL CELL

"Genomic science has greatly enhanced our understanding of the biological world. It is enabling researchers to "read" the genetic code of organisms from all branches of life by sequencing the four letters that make up DNA. Sequencing genomes has now become routine, giving rise to thousands of genomes in the public databases. In essence, scientists are digitizing biology by converting the A, C, T, and G's of the chemical makeup of DNA into 1's and 0's in a computer. But can one reverse the process and start with 1's and 0's in a computer to define the characteristics of a living cell? We set out to answer this question. "
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 26, 2010, 11:39:40 AM
http://www.aist.go.jp/aist_e/latest_research/2006/20060210/20060210.html (http://www.aist.go.jp/aist_e/latest_research/2006/20060210/20060210.html)

Three Dimensional Images in the Air
- Visualization of "real 3D images" using laser plasma -

--o0o--

http://www.physorg.com/news2591.html (http://www.physorg.com/news2591.html)

Projecting onto thin air

http://www.physorg.com/news139140836.html (http://www.physorg.com/news139140836.html)

Immaterial display allows viewers to handle 3D images in air

--o0o--

http://realfiction.com/ (http://realfiction.com/)

DreamocXL - 3D Holographic product display (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMrdAJyodI#ws)

--o0o--

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeamrelatedA01feb99.shtml (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeamrelatedA01feb99.shtml)

"What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad urging the Iraqi people and Army to rise up against Saddam, a senior Air Force officer asked in 1990? According to a military physicist given the task of looking into the hologram idea, the feasibility had been established of projecting large, three-dimensional objects that appeared to float in the air. But doing so over the skies of Iraq? To project such a hologram over Baghdad on the order of several hundred feet, they calculated, would take a mirror more than a mile square in space, as well as huge projectors and power sources. And besides, investigators came back, what does Allah look like?

The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The 'Holographic Projector' is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to 'project information power from space ... for special operations deception missions.' "

---o0o---

http://www.specialoperations.com/Focus/UAVs.htm (http://www.specialoperations.com/Focus/UAVs.htm)

EVS

Edit to add: 

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/touchable-holography-uses-wiimotes-to-add-sensation-of-touch-to/ (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/touchable-holography-uses-wiimotes-to-add-sensation-of-touch-to/)

Touchable Holography (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-P1zZAcPuw#)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on May 26, 2010, 03:27:53 PM
I have a question about 3D projection in relationship to my sighting. If i viewed the image straight on say from a frontal view and it appeared to have form and straight lines and clarity and then i were to change my position of viewing to say a 45 degrees or so and the image seemed a bit distorted in viewing, could this be an effect of 3D projection or would it appear the same, (clear an undistorted) from all angles of viewing, IE, Front Back, Sides, and Angles. I have a reason for asking this as the craft i saw seemed to be just a bit out of focus or proper alignment when viewed from an angle. I thought it might just have been the low light of early morning that created this effect, but now it is raising questions in my mind about all this.

                                                                                                    Thanks,   Ted                   

                     
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 26, 2010, 04:01:15 PM
Very good question, Ted!

The clarity of a projected image much depends on the way the projection is produced, and the "hardware" used. It also can be distorted by environmental changes, such as sunlight or rain etc. We know little about projecting images in a space with nothing but air, maybe the image would blur a bit when going near the edges just like a flatscreen TV. It certainly will be able to produce the "double-exposure" as you described earlier. That would point to "lumps" in a digital transference. Much like the sounds a damaged CD is making when played, or digital satellite TV transmission when a shower of rain passes nearby. This is caused by the way the digital receiver interpretes the signal, most receivers buffer signals (Data Buffering), and when a missing sequence occurs it jumps to the next in line, causing a "jump" in the sound/picture/image.

As we do not know the specific origin, nor the way the image was produced we can only make our best guesses. And still, it might not be a projected image at all.

It also depends on the technology used, and It's quite uncertain how an extraterrestrial technology responds to Military "tests" if this is what takes place in this case.

I have a strong feeling that what you saw was a test to see if the technology was working in a way that later can be used for several Military purposes. This could point to that the work "Isaac" was part of, still are undergoing such use. This is ofcourse my opinion only. ;)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on May 26, 2010, 05:07:24 PM
Ted, Distortion could also be a result of EM interference with the metamaterial cloak or anti-gravity technology... without further data, we simply will not know.

I've been aware of the 3d image projection tech shown by EVS for quite some time... and I'm wondering if this is a result of the back-engineering efforts described by Isaac in the PACL report ;)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on May 27, 2010, 10:34:18 AM
Here's another 3d projection display system embedded in a photo-refractive polymer:

http://www.physorg.com/news194082035.html (http://www.physorg.com/news194082035.html)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 28, 2010, 11:25:17 AM

Isaac's work in development?

http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Claytronics (http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Claytronics)

The goal of the claytronics project (AKA Synthetic reality) is to understand and develop the hardware and software neccesary to create programmable matter, a material which can be programmed to form dynamic three dimensional shapes which can interact in the physical world and visually take on an arbitrary appearance.

--o0o--

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~claytronics/index.html (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~claytronics/index.html)

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~claytronics/multimedia/index.html (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~claytronics/multimedia/index.html)

Claytronics - Physical Dynamic Rendering (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcaqzOUv2Ao#)

--o0o--

http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/Exploratory/1500.htm (http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/Exploratory/1500.htm)

Dynamic Physical Rendering (DPR)

Dynamic Physical Rendering Research at Intel

---oo0oo---
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 24, 2010, 12:14:53 AM
I have given the "Language" of the drones a bit more thinking, and I've found that the reason why the symbols
are "Close to Katakana" might be that it's a tryout to harness the control over the alien matter, done by the
Military, maybe in cooperation with Xerox, before it was given to "PACL" to make use of it in a sort of "stand-still" at higher places.


The only true similarities are the LAP and the drones holding these schematics. The great issue is why "Isaac" claims
to know the "Katakana Like" language, as he posted photo's of these on the website of his. If he knew about the "Katakana Like" language, he
must have known about the way the Military worked with these "alien" artefacts.

There somehow seems to be a difference of origin between the Drones with "Katakana-Like" writing on them, and the ones with the "LAP" images on them.


I think something is hidden here,

EVS

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: danblast on July 25, 2010, 04:58:07 AM
What if the characters themselves don't matter and the symbols simply are icons for functions. For example take shortcut icons on your windows or mac, they can be any symbol a Japanese character for example or an English letter that represents a program. You can program a computer to use various symbols; 1+1=2 or *+*= >:)
I can make my desktop shortcut for my browser be a letter Z for example (or anything else) so the symbol may not be important since it runs a program represented by the symbol which interacts with the other programs. So you could use universal shapes, Katana, Geometric shapes or alien letters or whatever you want. The symbols may be meaningless to us if they are icons representing programs.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 25, 2010, 08:26:08 AM
So you could use universal shapes, Katana, Geometric shapes or alien letters or whatever you want. The symbols may be meaningless to us if they are icons representing programs.

Just a thought.

And a very good thought! If the Military was in cooperation with Xerox, then they might have chosen a well known font, like Katakana to begin programming this unknown substance as described by "Isaac". This may be for several reasons of which we only can make our best guesses, but the obvious reason could be to "change" the shape of these already known characters, to obtain a new behaviour of the substance, perhaps to make it do a slight different task? And that could be why it's no longer "pure" Katakana we see on the smaller drones?

Thanks,
EVS 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: danblast on July 25, 2010, 02:09:35 PM
This made me think a little further, what if the substrate is like a skin? For example if you wrote a command on my skin I would understand it and be able to execute it.

So what if the drones have a sort of AI (artificial intelligence) that allows them to execute commands that are painted/wrote on them?

So you have a symbol language where each symbol is a program unto itself and a self aware AI device (drone) that understands those commands and can execute them when the symbols are placed on them.

Let say(:- this means run the detection program and ):- means takes samples and ( : ) means if found then go to X if not then go to Y.

And on the drone you have (:-):-( : ) These would look bizarre to us since we don't know their function. But they are executing a series of commands in an overall program. The magic skin on the drone is the input device.

Ever play the game as a kid where someone traces letters on your back and you try to figure out what they are. Drones know what they are and execute the commands.

This would make seeing an alphabet difficult if not impossible just like looking at a Chinese character is not a letter but a symbol. I don't think its : ) = A ( : = B. Like in Chinese 天= Heaven, Sky, Universe, Grand etc. Each character can mean multiple things and only the context can make it specific. Now imagine attaching a self running program to that 天, That when drawn on a Drones surface will cause it to execute that program.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 25, 2010, 02:46:26 PM
What if the characters themselves don't matter and the symbols simply are icons for functions.

Ah yes, In programming, that would be named a "subroutine call". Give a name (or icon) to a complex function and just use that simple name in the future.

So more thoughts:

Just as the symbols may be a representation of something deeper, also the spacing between them may have some meaning. As Isaac said in an email to Linda (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/): "Since the geometry of the forms is extremely important, ..."

Like a sentence, our words form a sequence of ideas, one word adding to the last. A similar mathematical representation might be:
 result = a + b + c +d + ...
Isaac claims about the alien language "As each new feature was added, the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable proportions", so that representation might be something like:
 result = (a * b) (c * d) * ...

If the symbols are like subroutines calls, then the positional relationships might be like the parameters to the subroutine. For example; one symbol might describe the "entire human genome" but it's placement near another symbol might represent the time-line in history of that genome!



For example if you wrote a command on my skin I would understand it and be able to execute it.
That may be exactly what is happening as Isaac stated:
"Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state."
Also, interestingly, the PACL artifacts A2 and A3 have identical weights despite being different lengths. the Q4-86 report page 7 suggests that the pieces "are more internally complex, somehow containing information that describes their position and orientation in relation to A1 ...", just like your writing on skin example!

If there are little computers behind that skin, it makes us wonder what powers them, especially since current laptop computers cannot even last a day using a battery. What happens when the components of the computer are reduced to nano-technology sizes? The power source may come from heat differentials or radio waves ... "in the presence of a very specific type of field". We currently call powerless devices "passive", but if nano computing could eventually eliminate the need for external power supplies, then devices like A2 and A3 may actually appear to be magic when in fact they would just be a lower power computer harnessing radio waves as energy just like a solar cell uses the Sun.

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on July 26, 2010, 12:57:26 AM
What if the characters themselves don't matter and the symbols simply are icons for functions.

Ah yes, In programming, that would be named a "subroutine call". Give a name (or icon) to a complex function and just use that simple name in the future.

So more thoughts:

Just as the symbols may be a representation of something deeper, also the spacing between them may have some meaning. As Isaac said in an email to Linda (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/): "Since the geometry of the forms is extremely important, ..."

Like a sentence, our words form a sequence of ideas, one word adding to the last. A similar mathematical representation might be:
 result = a + b + c +d + ...
Isaac claims about the alien language "As each new feature was added, the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable proportions", so that representation might be something like:
 result = (a * b) (c * d) * ...

If the symbols are like subroutines calls, then the positional relationships might be like the parameters to the subroutine. For example; one symbol might describe the "entire human genome" but it's placement near another symbol might represent the time-line in history of that genome!



For example if you wrote a command on my skin I would understand it and be able to execute it.
That may be exactly what is happening as Isaac stated:
"Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state."
Also, interestingly, the PACL artifacts A2 and A3 have identical weights despite being different lengths. the Q4-86 report page 7 suggests that the pieces "are more internally complex, somehow containing information that describes their position and orientation in relation to A1 ...", just like your writing on skin example!

If there are little computers behind that skin, it makes us wonder what powers them, especially since current laptop computers cannot even last a day using a battery. What happens when the components of the computer are reduced to nano-technology sizes? The power source may come from heat differentials or radio waves ... "in the presence of a very specific type of field". We currently call powerless devices "passive", but if nano computing could eventually eliminate the need for external power supplies, then devices like A2 and A3 may actually appear to be magic when in fact they would just be a lower power computer harnessing radio waves as energy just like a solar cell uses the Sun.

Exactly!  The Drone craft is like a living being except it is made of exotic materials and not flesh like a human body is.  These exotic materials have the ability to 'think and act', much like we do but in a different way.

Isaac relates in cryptic language that the PACL/CARET scientists were looking at a mechanism that was possibly thousands of years more advanced than anything we have on earth.  They were like a caveman looking at a Boeing 747 jet plane or worse.

We can do some of these things now but in a very primitive way.  Tracking labels on packages use this technology to sort and warehouse materials.  Special electro sensitive inks and printing can be activated in an electrical field to instruct machines to act in specific ways.

All of this technology originally has come from alien artifacts.  But at this time we are just taking little baby steps to apply it in commercial ways.

Some of this info has been posted here on DRT in 2008.  We've discussed this before.

Yes, the shape of the alien letter and the material of the letter on the outside of the craft communicates instructions to something inside the substrate.  I suspect that scientists still do not understand how this happens because the materials used in the construction of the Drone is beyond our capabilities at this time.  But that is just a guess on my part.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on July 26, 2010, 04:15:03 AM
What if the characters themselves don't matter and the symbols simply are icons for functions.

Ah yes, In programming, that would be named a "subroutine call". Give a name (or icon) to a complex function and just use that simple name in the future.

So more thoughts:

Just as the symbols may be a representation of something deeper, also the spacing between them may have some meaning. As Isaac said in an email to Linda (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/): "Since the geometry of the forms is extremely important, ..."

Like a sentence, our words form a sequence of ideas, one word adding to the last. A similar mathematical representation might be:
 result = a + b + c +d + ...
Isaac claims about the alien language "As each new feature was added, the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable proportions", so that representation might be something like:
 result = (a * b) (c * d) * ...

If the symbols are like subroutines calls, then the positional relationships might be like the parameters to the subroutine. For example; one symbol might describe the "entire human genome" but it's placement near another symbol might represent the time-line in history of that genome!



For example if you wrote a command on my skin I would understand it and be able to execute it.
That may be exactly what is happening as Isaac stated:
"Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state."
Also, interestingly, the PACL artifacts A2 and A3 have identical weights despite being different lengths. the Q4-86 report page 7 suggests that the pieces "are more internally complex, somehow containing information that describes their position and orientation in relation to A1 ...", just like your writing on skin example!

If there are little computers behind that skin, it makes us wonder what powers them, especially since current laptop computers cannot even last a day using a battery. What happens when the components of the computer are reduced to nano-technology sizes? The power source may come from heat differentials or radio waves ... "in the presence of a very specific type of field". We currently call powerless devices "passive", but if nano computing could eventually eliminate the need for external power supplies, then devices like A2 and A3 may actually appear to be magic when in fact they would just be a lower power computer harnessing radio waves as energy just like a solar cell uses the Sun.

Exactly!  The Drone craft is like a living being except it is made of exotic materials and not flesh like a human body is.  These exotic materials have the ability to 'think and act', much like we do but in a different way.

Isaac relates in cryptic language that the PACL/CARET scientists were looking at a mechanism that was possibly thousands of years more advanced than anything we have on earth.  They were like a caveman looking at a Boeing 747 jet plane or worse.

We can do some of these things now but in a very primitive way.  Tracking labels on packages use this technology to sort and warehouse materials.  Special electro sensitive inks and printing can be activated in an electrical field to instruct machines to act in specific ways.

All of this technology originally has come from alien artifacts.  But at this time we are just taking little baby steps to apply it in commercial ways.

Some of this info has been posted here on DRT in 2008.  We've discussed this before.

Yes, the shape of the alien letter and the material of the letter on the outside of the craft communicates instructions to something inside the substrate.  I suspect that scientists still do not understand how this happens because the materials used in the construction of the Drone is beyond our capabilities at this time.  But that is just a guess on my part.
Interesting observations. Yes!! Exactly!! Speaking from my experience, no human traits such as personality or emotion. But the ability to interact on the human level for communication only. I liken it to "MR. SPOCK" on steroids!!! Very stern, commanding, intimidating, cold and unfeeling. Not something you could be friends with or would want to!!
                                                                                      Ted
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on July 26, 2010, 09:55:19 PM
All things function by their shape in relation to something else.  This is universal, so is nothing new.  My fascination grew from the original shape of the drones and this is what led me to create one.  another suggestion to be taken as you will, the inventory photo is IMHO the most important part of all of this.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on July 27, 2010, 01:35:08 AM
All things function by their shape in relation to something else.  This is universal, so is nothing new.  My fascination grew from the original shape of the drones and this is what led me to create one.  another suggestion to be taken as you will, the inventory photo is IMHO the most important part of all of this.

Lev, you did not create a 'Drone'.  Where ever do you get that idea? You created a lame hoax.

 Yes, we all know your opinion of the inventory photo...you've stated this several times.  I agree, it is important, along with the rest of the Isaac material.

 IMO, the only really creative element to arise from the Drone flap was the music video made by Salad Fingers aka Kris Avery.
 
http://youtu.be/ctsuw0o3jTY (http://youtu.be/ctsuw0o3jTY)

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 27, 2010, 02:11:52 AM
IMO, the only really creative element to arise from the Drone flap was the music video made by Salad Fingers aka Kris Avery.
 
http://youtu.be/ctsuw0o3jTY (http://youtu.be/ctsuw0o3jTY)
I'll admit that I really liked both the original tune and video that was later made for it. Viewing that now, I don't think any newcomer would have realized it was created by one of the loudest claimants of how the entire case is a hoax, and that anyone who believed one bit of the story was an ass following a CARROT on a stick. It reminds me a bit of the fierce atheist attacks on religion, deserved or not.

Watching the video now without the baggage of arguments in 2007, it appears to me as one of the best pro-drone advertisements ever! Who would have imagined it was born from the need to prove that a human could recreate those original photos with a computer?

IMO
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on July 27, 2010, 03:36:27 AM
IMO, the only really creative element to arise from the Drone flap was the music video made by Salad Fingers aka Kris Avery.
 
http://youtu.be/ctsuw0o3jTY (http://youtu.be/ctsuw0o3jTY)
I'll admit that I really liked both the original tune and video that was later made for it. Viewing that now, I don't think any newcomer would have realized it was created by one of the loudest claimants of how the entire case is a hoax, and that anyone who believed one bit of the story was an ass following a CARROT on a stick. It reminds me a bit of the fierce atheist attacks on religion, deserved or not.

Watching the video now without the baggage of arguments in 2007, it appears to me as one of the best pro-drone advertisements ever! Who would have imagined it was born from the need to prove that a human could recreate those original photos with a computer?

IMO

I had forgotten what a pain Kris was in the beginning.  Must have been the bad water in Manchester....or his need to be a maverick.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on July 27, 2010, 06:43:32 AM
Hi Ted,

this may give you an idea of where monitoring systems are heading:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction)


I have read of similar crime prediction software which monitors in real time individual behaviour and looks for potential threats.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on July 27, 2010, 01:21:14 PM
Hi Ted,

this may give you an idea of where monitoring systems are heading:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction)


I have read of similar crime prediction software which monitors in real time individual behaviour and looks for potential threats.
I can see how the CRUSH system might be linked to the Drone discussion. It seems quite possible that this system could be a precursor to the use of the Drone Craft as the ultimate "BIG BROTHER" devices. Perhaps this in conjunction with the Drone Craft is something still in it's infancy. It is also interesting as of this week, many retailers including Walmart and others are going ahead with the use of RFID tags in Jeans and Underwear that they sell. These RFID tags will provide the location of the wearer supposedly for marketing research only. All this in conjunction with my sighting and interaction with the Drone Craft make me suspicious that the purpose of all this, be it Alien or Human technology or a combination of these two, is for the control and surveillance of our race. Is this some evil plan of an Alien Society? Or The agenda of some Human Organizations or Governments to control our destiny. I have pondered this possibility since my experience in 2007 and am sure something is afoot here. The Forum Name i chose, "Ominoustruth", is my way of expressing my feelings about this whole subject including the Drone Craft.Things are adding up, but where are they heading?, and what can we do to get to the TRUTH before it is too late to react? Did Issac know much more than just what he divulged about the Drones themselves? Were all these Flights from 2007 and earlier tests of a system not yet completed and put into place? And who all is REALLY involved in this project? I want ANSWERS!!!!!! Thanks for the info and "CRUSH" link.
                                                                                         Ted

                                                                               
                                                                         
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on July 27, 2010, 04:20:07 PM
Watching the video now without the baggage of arguments in 2007, it appears to me as one of the best pro-drone advertisements ever! Who would have imagined it was born from the need to prove that a human could recreate those original photos with a computer?

IMO

I never much cared for that video.  Too many inaccuracies like the jet plane shooting down a drone.  According to the Isaac letter that would be impossible.  The music was IMO monotonous.  A catchy beat with three notes over and over again till I have to mute the thing.  Isn't that Ted's voice that DroneOnline has stolen?  Some of Kris's visuals are kinda cool like the BB drone with the spinning parts.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 27, 2010, 05:03:34 PM
Isn't that Ted's voice that DroneOnline has stolen?

Yes, without permission that probably could have easily been obtained, the voices of Ted, Shirley and Linda where used, then stamped in the video credits "Special thanks Linda Moulton Howe" . Maybe that's all it takes these days to copy other peoples efforts. As I recall, Linda wasn't too pleased.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on July 27, 2010, 05:54:24 PM
Isn't that Ted's voice that DroneOnline has stolen?

Yes, without permission that probably could have easily been obtained, the voices of Ted, Shirley and Linda where used, then stamped in the video credits "Special thanks Linda Moulton Howe" . Maybe that's all it takes these days to copy other peoples efforts. As I recall, Linda wasn't too pleased.
Funny, I do play Guitar and Drums in a Band but i don't recall signing with the Village Idiot Record Label !!!! Not bad music but needs more Guitar!!!!
                                                                             
                                                                          Ted
 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on July 27, 2010, 07:56:59 PM
Then change the word create to reproduce.  BTW I continue to reproduce certain things and your dislike is quite unimportant.  No one knows who created the first drone.  When or where.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on July 29, 2010, 01:34:11 AM
Hi Ted,

this may give you an idea of where monitoring systems are heading:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction)


I have read of similar crime prediction software which monitors in real time individual behaviour and looks for potential threats.
I can see how the CRUSH system might be linked to the Drone discussion. It seems quite possible that this system could be a precursor to the use of the Drone Craft ...           

If your story is to be believed I am simply pointing out that modern software can be used to predict human behaviour. If an advanced device has been monitoring human development over the centuries, it would likely possess a significant record of human traits such as aggression and inquisitiveness, emotional responses such as fear and so on from which to assess your likely actions and plot a course of action.

Maybe the drone sent you an inaudible acoustic warning something akin to this new technology:
Long-Range Audio Device (L-RAD) and Magnetic Acoustic Device (MAD) are pieces of equipment that many ships are now starting to deploy. Classified as a 'non lethal' weapon they create a beam of sound that can travel far further than sound from a normal loud speaker.

Vahan Simidian CEO of HPV Technologies, who developed MAD, explained how it all worked.

"We create our sound through what we call a plane sound source of information, which means a message can be heard a long way away.


"If the captain had concerns about a vessel, they would activate siren mode on the MAD. That will definitely get their attention. You would then tell them that you know that they are there, and that they do not have the element of surprise.

"Should they keep on closing, the captain would commence evasive actions and switch on 'tone' - this is a piercing sound that will irritate and disorientate them," he said.

Currently they are used to communicate to a potential attacker that the ship knows they are there, but experts say that on full power it could knock someone off their feet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7735685.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7735685.stm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on July 29, 2010, 01:51:25 AM
Hi Ted,

this may give you an idea of where monitoring systems are heading:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/police-software-crime-prediction)


I have read of similar crime prediction software which monitors in real time individual behaviour and looks for potential threats.
I can see how the CRUSH system might be linked to the Drone discussion. It seems quite possible that this system could be a precursor to the use of the Drone Craft ...           

If your story is to be believed I am simply pointing out that modern software can be used to predict human behaviour. If an advanced device has been monitoring human development over the centuries, it would likely possess a significant record of human traits such as aggression and inquisitiveness, emotional responses such as fear and so on from which to assess your likely actions and plot a course of action.

Maybe the drone sent you an inaudible acoustic warning something akin to this new technology:
Long-Range Audio Device (L-RAD) and Magnetic Acoustic Device (MAD) are pieces of equipment that many ships are now starting to deploy. Classified as a 'non lethal' weapon they create a beam of sound that can travel far further than sound from a normal loud speaker.

Vahan Simidian CEO of HPV Technologies, who developed MAD, explained how it all worked.

"We create our sound through what we call a plane sound source of information, which means a message can be heard a long way away.


"If the captain had concerns about a vessel, they would activate siren mode on the MAD. That will definitely get their attention. You would then tell them that you know that they are there, and that they do not have the element of surprise.

"Should they keep on closing, the captain would commence evasive actions and switch on 'tone' - this is a piercing sound that will irritate and disorientate them," he said.

Currently they are used to communicate to a potential attacker that the ship knows they are there, but experts say that on full power it could knock someone off their feet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7735685.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7735685.stm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon)
Fascinating! This certainly would account for the feeling of FEAR i experienced and my decision not to take any offensive action against the craft. Wasn't something similar to this used in Vietnam in the 60's and 70's to discourage the NVA and Viet Cong from atacking U.S. forward bases? Seems similar only i believe they used very large loudspeakers and Amplifiers and they actually could cause death if turned up to full volume. Thanks for the info and the Link.

                                                                          Ted 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 31, 2010, 11:06:22 PM
I hate to interrupt a good debate, but I feel the need to post this new discovery:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvidenskab.dk%2Fcomposite-4843.htm&sl=da&tl=en&swap=1 (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvidenskab.dk%2Fcomposite-4843.htm&sl=da&tl=en&swap=1)

The original site in Danish:
http://videnskab.dk/composite-4843.htm (http://videnskab.dk/composite-4843.htm)

EVS

PS: Please continue the debate!
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on August 11, 2010, 03:30:17 PM
http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=29091 (http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=29091)

--oo0oo--

Birth, life and death of a photon

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/emergingtech/birth-life-and-death-of-a-photon/517 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/emergingtech/birth-life-and-death-of-a-photon/517)

--oo0oo--

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00729.htm (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00729.htm)

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7501919888/m/4401995899 (http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7501919888/m/4401995899)


--oo0oo--


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Big_Bang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Big_Bang)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 11, 2010, 01:14:43 AM
Some real 3D projection:

http://www.brokencitylab.org/blog/3d-image-projection/ (http://www.brokencitylab.org/blog/3d-image-projection/)

http://www.aist.go.jp/aist_e/latest_research/2006/20060210/20060210.html (http://www.aist.go.jp/aist_e/latest_research/2006/20060210/20060210.html)

http://pinktentacle.com/2006/02/aist-develops-3d-image-projector/ (http://pinktentacle.com/2006/02/aist-develops-3d-image-projector/)

-o0o-


EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 22, 2010, 11:57:00 PM
If you think 3D projected on buildings can be even more spectacular, you'll sure enjoy this:

3D Projection Mapping (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IICGkOtJ9E#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 14, 2010, 02:46:16 AM
While looking for the source of antigravity, here's something to consider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gravity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gravity)

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/040661-2008-11-02-the-secret-to-true-antigravity-revealed.htm (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/040661-2008-11-02-the-secret-to-true-antigravity-revealed.htm)

http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/Einstein-Antigravity.pdf (http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/Einstein-Antigravity.pdf)  (PDF File, might take some time to download!)

http://prestonparish.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/antigravity-physics-explained/ (http://prestonparish.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/antigravity-physics-explained/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on November 16, 2010, 10:32:41 PM
Great summary! Thanks.


http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/Einstein-Antigravity.pdf (http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/Einstein-Antigravity.pdf)
Tim Ventura always does a nice job of summing up the anti-gravity scene.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 18, 2010, 12:49:03 AM
Some links describing extra dimensions, Dark Matter and multiple Universes:

http://www.physorg.com/news67773542.html (http://www.physorg.com/news67773542.html)

Detecting An Extra Dimension (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpx9YklIrMQ#)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070203103355.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070203103355.htm)

http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/071011_universes.htm (http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/071011_universes.htm)

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=18850 (http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=18850)

http://www.speed-light.info/video_darkmatter (http://www.speed-light.info/video_darkmatter)

EVS


Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 24, 2010, 12:09:31 AM
http://superstringtheory.com/ (http://superstringtheory.com/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory)

http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/28895 (http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/28895)

http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/33357 (http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/33357)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/science/15string.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/science/15string.html)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 24, 2010, 12:41:47 AM
The world that surrounds us all, has to be explained in a theory that explains how all things are connected.

Why, you would ask...

Somehow our inner search want's to find out what this cosmos that we live in,
and have for generations, have come about. It's the search for God. Or,
the way the world work, so to speak. We, as humans always wanted to know how everything was to be,
even though we knew that within a single humans life, that was not to be accomplished.
Therefor we base our search on reliquies from our past. Some rely on religion, some of research.
Somehow this is blended, with what we see as "reality" and what is our collected knowledge
during our time as thinking entities here on this Earth. Somehow it glitches, as all we really knows,
is from earlier statements from passed scientists, and what they observed when they were alive. Much like the information
we get from the Bible, or any other religious scriptures found around the Earth.

The builds on that is what we now see as NASA is struggeling to reach for planets, and scientists struggeling
to achieve a higher understanding. Sure, it will prevail, if the notes are kept open for any scientist to research,
for the generations to come.

We who live here now, only see a narrow part of this great work, very similar to the work the great Egyptians
saw their work as progress.

Somehow it's sad to say, we're nothing but a part of civilisation just as the Mayans, we rule for some time, and then
leave the Earth for other civilisations to take over.

Just my opinion.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on November 24, 2010, 02:01:13 AM
The builds on that is what we now see as NASA is struggeling to reach for planets, and scientists struggeling to achieve a higher understanding. Sure, it will prevail, if the notes are kept open for any scientist to research,

And, if multiple dimensions do exist, then we've spent the last 400 years looking for "these things" in the expanse of space, when they might be right in our midst.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 24, 2010, 02:31:00 AM
They have been here all the time. Just never observed. Allthough Einstein had theories about them.

Just like how entanglement works. Once created, then separated...still connected.

How little we know, how can we claim to rule this planet?

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 24, 2010, 03:01:36 AM
Some work tables of CERN, for those in the know:

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1264122 (http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1264122)

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1262544 (http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1262544)

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1264732 (http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1264732)

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1305121 (http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1305121)

And finally, a book exerpt on the subject:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/books/chapters/chapter-age-of-entanglement.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/books/chapters/chapter-age-of-entanglement.html)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 25, 2010, 04:04:26 AM
Extra dimensions, how interesting.  Still studying some of the Drones I see.  A clue: the Big Basin Drone and the Inventory photo.  Now at UFOCB, the topic has been successfully killed.
Be seeing you in time.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on November 25, 2010, 10:42:23 PM
Extra dimensions, how interesting.  Still studying some of the Drones I see.  A clue: the Big Basin Drone and the Inventory photo.  Now at UFOCB, the topic has been successfully killed.

I think there is still much to study and uncover.

The inventory (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/pacl-q385-inventory-review-fullsize.jpg) and CARET (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/) photos imply something is stationary in "our" dimension. Only the eye-witnesses reports of disappearing and strange movement offers clues of other dimensions.

Discovery requires careful analysis of all reported phenomenon. If such dimensions exist, maybe they have been observed and misinterpreted at some points through our history.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 26, 2010, 05:18:35 AM
Extra dimensions, how interesting.  Still studying some of the Drones I see.  A clue: the Big Basin Drone and the Inventory photo.  Now at UFOCB, the topic has been successfully killed.

I think there is still much to study and uncover.

The inventory (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/pacl-q385-inventory-review-fullsize.jpg) and CARET (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/) photos imply something is stationary in "our" dimension. Only the eye-witnesses reports of disappearing and strange movement offers clues of other dimensions.

Discovery requires careful analysis of all reported phenomenon. If such dimensions exist, maybe they have been observed and misinterpreted at some points through our history.
All this discussion has prompted to think back to my experience in 2007. In retrospect it has caused me to remember a small detail that had escaped me until now. As the craft was passing the tree, the tail, (or paddle portion), may have brushed a limb of the tree causing movement. It is hard to say as it was dark and there had been a slight breeze on that morning, but at the time of the sighting, it was dead calm. If indeed the craft did cause this slight movement of the tree limb, then it must have had substance in this dimension and that in my mind would also rule out the possibility of a holographic or projected image. I am dumbfounded that i have not thought of this until now since this is or could be a most important fact in my experience !!! I still cannot rule out the wind as a cause, but now that i reflect on it and this discussion, it gives me cause to rethink this. Just wanted to post this while it was fresh in my mind. More food for thought !!!                                                                               Ted 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on November 26, 2010, 05:44:26 AM
Correct Ted, IMO.  The Drone is a very solid and a real material object.  The thing that mystifies people is that it appears to fade from view.   Then it moves and reappears.  This is gives the viewer a skipping and rather disjointed visual impression. 

The strange umbrella structure on top is the device that causes the Drone craft to disappear to our eyes because it interferes with how visual light is received onto the retina of the eye.  This is because something or someone is turning it on and off.

The Drone is not moving in and out of Time or this earth dimension.

I would suspect we have the Inventory photo because a government somehow took down a Drone.

Drones...very real and solid.

Douglas
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on November 26, 2010, 01:24:38 PM
As the craft was passing the tree, the tail, (or paddle portion), may have brushed a limb of the tree causing movement.

This is surely what drives many people crazy. There is no known substance or device that has these properties:

So if such a device exists, then this statement should be seriously considered:
Another civilization that can come here by any means will be vastly more advanced than us and will probably share few of our conceptions or rules.

And in those unshared concepts, I think the possibility of telepathy is very likely. There are endless stories of communication with the supernatural. Millions of people chant (and sing hymns), and pray, does it all mean nothing, or is there some basis to that action? I'm sorry to bring religion into this discussion, but there really is no denying all the parallels.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 26, 2010, 04:14:22 PM
Communication has always been available, but I suggest they have a serious agenda.  I do not confine them to our perceived environment.  I do say their methods are beyond our present science to copy, but we may be fed that that we can see as possibilities.  Their communication is IMO based upon who receives it and is geared or focused on the receiver.
Be seeing you in time.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 26, 2010, 11:49:00 PM
Communication has always been available, but I suggest they have a serious agenda.  I do not confine them to our perceived environment.  I do say their methods are beyond our present science to copy, but we may be fed that that we can see as possibilities.  Their communication is IMO based upon who receives it and is geared or focused on the receiver.
Be seeing you in time.
L E V I A T H A N

So you admit that the drone saga is an image presented to us all, to test our progress as humans? Or am I interpretating this message wrong?
EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 27, 2010, 04:04:35 AM
I would suggest that the entire UFO phenomena is this.  A measure of us for some reason.  In my case no one has ever asked me what prompted me to design a drone and submit it to LMH. They decide it was for malicious reasons and I will let it stand at that.  They should look more closely at the time frame of the submitted images of all the different Drones.
Be seenin you in time.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on November 27, 2010, 04:07:27 AM
In my case no one has ever asked me what prompted me to design a drone and submit it to LMH.

Very well, I would like to know what prompted you to design a drone and submit it to LMH. I am over the initial disappointment and am now open to hear your story.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on November 27, 2010, 05:36:13 AM
Communication has always been available, but I suggest they have a serious agenda.  I do not confine them to our perceived environment.  I do say their methods are beyond our present science to copy, but we may be fed that that we can see as possibilities.  Their communication is IMO based upon who receives it and is geared or focused on the receiver.
Be seeing you in time.
L E V I A T H A N

So you admit that the drone saga is an image presented to us all, to test our progress as humans? Or am I interpretating this message wrong?
EVS

This whole Drone saga would have been just another of many UFO sightings over the past decades if it had not been for Issac.  Issac elevated these sightings onto a plain that has not existed before.  His letters, documents and obvious desire to explain it, is history in the making.  Too bad that a lot of websites and various individuals with agendas gave him the brush-off.

All of this is what prompted me to research the sightings of wheels and "doughnut" shaped UFOs over the past several hundred years.  Much to my astonishment, I discovered that Drones, as they are now called, are nothing new.

Douglas................
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 27, 2010, 05:43:52 AM
I would suggest that the entire UFO phenomena is this.  A measure of us for some reason.  In my case no one has ever asked me what prompted me to design a drone and submit it to LMH. They decide it was for malicious reasons and I will let it stand at that.  They should look more closely at the time frame of the submitted images of all the different Drones.
Be seenin you in time.
L E V I A T H A N
Lev, I would like to ask you one direct question. Have you been a witness of a Drone Craft sighting at any time? I ask this question after reading your many posts and viewing your artwork and images. I tend to think there is more there than just a vivid imagination and the desire to perpetrate a hoax. There seems to be some underlying purpose or meaning to your pursuit of this subject. Having been through the experience of a sighting i find myself at times trying to rationalize and describe my event with difficulty in expressing all the details and emotional feelings that the sighting left me with. You seem to have a very VESTED interest in all this greater than dispelling this as a hoax, media hype, or lies. I would appreciate a candid and honest answer.

                                                                                             Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 27, 2010, 03:15:05 PM
I don't see what my story being told now would accomplish.  I designed the Alabama Drone and submitted it to LMH more as an obsession as any thing else.  My first Drone was rapidly produced and was far from an indicate design.  The Drones drove me to increase my attention to the Design of latter Drones.  Also my abilities increased.  Soon it became necessary, to me, to keep alive the possibility that the Drones were real.  I am not sure why this obsession occurred.  I still enjoy the Drone's design and the saga.  The Drone saga will go into hibernation, but you can be assured it will come again.  For the mean time I will keep my story to myself.
Be seeing you in time.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 27, 2010, 04:11:08 PM
I don't see what my story being told now would accomplish ... For the mean time I will keep my story to myself.

So i can assume you have a story? Possibly of an actual encounter with a Drone Craft?
Is this what inspired your Artwork and your interest in this subject? And maybe you were contacted and convinced to spread disinformation and create a hoax by the same folks who approached me after my experience? All this just seems to lead somewhere !!!! Hmm!
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 27, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
To my knowledge I have never had an encounter or communication with any "alien".  I have never seen a Drone, but when I saw the first picture of a so called Drone I felt very much that it was a familiar image for some reason.  I did feel driven to produce a copy and submit it somewhere.  The first image was submitted to C2C with no response, next to LMH.  Since all this began I have created many, many different Drones and have IMO improved my skills at doing so.  I can only say I have no conscious reason for my part in the Drone saga except being obsessed by it and feeling that it was very important to keep it going.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on November 28, 2010, 01:42:02 AM
To my knowledge I have never had an encounter or communication with any "alien".  I have never seen a Drone, but when I saw the first picture of a so called Drone I felt very much that it was a familiar image for some reason.  I did feel driven to produce a copy and submit it somewhere.  The first image was submitted to C2C with no response, next to LMH.  Since all this began I have created many, many different Drones and have IMO improved my skills at doing so.  I can only say I have no conscious reason for my part in the Drone saga except being obsessed by it and feeling that it was very important to keep it going.
L E V I A T H A N

The Drone saga will continue when one suddenly appears, someone sees it and hopefully takes a photo.

Other scenarios could be that LMH will release some more hi-res photos or that we will again hear from the elusive Isaac.  The other possibilities are endless.

As far as CGI models go....everyone needs a hobby.  Nothing  wrong with that but they should be clearly identified as CGI.  Faux reports do not add anything to a serious investigation of aerial phenomena other than entertainment.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 28, 2010, 03:10:33 AM
Never regarded this as a hobby, but something I needed to do, something to be defensive about, something that had truth in it.  A day will come when the Drones are seen again by then things may be very different.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 28, 2010, 04:23:15 AM
To my knowledge I have never had an encounter or communication with any "alien".  I have never seen a Drone, but when I saw the first picture of a so called Drone I felt very much that it was a familiar image for some reason.  I did feel driven to produce a copy and submit it somewhere.  The first image was submitted to C2C with no response, next to LMH.  Since all this began I have created many, many different Drones and have IMO improved my skills at doing so.  I can only say I have no conscious reason for my part in the Drone saga except being obsessed by it and feeling that it was very important to keep it going.
L E V I A T H A N
You say that the image of the Drone Craft seemed very "Familiar" to you. Could you elaborate on that? Was it a mental image of just the shape and form? Or was it like a Photo like the Chad images with other images such as trees and buildings associated with the craft?
                                                                                   Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 28, 2010, 04:35:05 AM
Never regarded this as a hobby, but something I needed to do, something to be defensive about, something that had truth in it.  A day will come when the Drones are seen again by then things may be very different.
L E V I A T H A N
Thanks for the open and honest comment., I too have that "Something i needed to do, something to be defensive about, something that had truth in it" feeling and that is my reason for asking these questions of you. It seems you have been given information and insight from some source that you may not even have been aware of. Very interesting and intriguing.
                                                                           Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 28, 2010, 01:57:02 PM
I can not say that I have received any extra information about the Drones.  When I saw the first image of the Drones, I was intrigued and fascinated by the design.  The image looked very familiar, but no scene was involved, just the image.  The Big Basin Drone is either a true masterpiece or the real thing.  Its incorporation of the LAP is truly startling.  I have examined this craft closely and it is incredible.  The shadow issues are spurious at best.  The only excuse for my involvement and the "character" I played is the desire to keep the saga alive for what reasons I am not sure.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 29, 2010, 12:20:38 AM
To my knowledge I have never had an encounter or communication with any "alien".  I have never seen a Drone, but when I saw the first picture of a so called Drone I felt very much that it was a familiar image for some reason.  I did feel driven to produce a copy and submit it somewhere.  The first image was submitted to C2C with no response, next to LMH.  Since all this began I have created many, many different Drones and have IMO improved my skills at doing so.  I can only say I have no conscious reason for my part in the Drone saga except being obsessed by it and feeling that it was very important to keep it going.
L E V I A T H A N

The Drone saga will continue when one suddenly appears, someone sees it and hopefully takes a photo.

Other scenarios could be that LMH will release some more hi-res photos or that we will again hear from the elusive Isaac.  The other possibilities are endless.

As far as CGI models go....everyone needs a hobby.  Nothing  wrong with that but they should be clearly identified as CGI.  Faux reports do not add anything to a serious investigation of aerial phenomena other than entertainment.
Douglas, i completely agree. Also i believe when all this is finally revealed, it will be in the blink of an eye. Like water from a waterfall, it will all come in one big torrent and the whole saga will be solved. Until that time, patience, perseverance, continuing investigation and open discussion are vital to understanding what will be revealed to all of us who continue to follow this great mystery. I for one will continue to follow this, no matter where this leads, if only for my own peace of mind about my experiences. And i hope everyone will continue to keep this issue alive, even in the absence of any recent developments because there will be a conclusion to this Drone Craft phenomena.

                                                                                                     Ted 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: ominoustruth on November 29, 2010, 12:30:41 AM
I can not say that I have received any extra information about the Drones.  When I saw the first image of the Drones, I was intrigued and fascinated by the design.  The image looked very familiar, but no scene was involved, just the image.  The Big Basin Drone is either a true masterpiece or the real thing.  Its incorporation of the LAP is truly startling.  I have examined this craft closely and it is incredible.  The shadow issues are spurious at best.  The only excuse for my involvement and the "character" I played is the desire to keep the saga alive for what reasons I am not sure.
L E V I A T H A N
Thanks, LEV. I believe that we humans have Hearts and Brains for more than biological body function. They also have the power to lead us to what we seek.

                                                                                            Ted
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on November 29, 2010, 01:49:40 AM
The barrier between what we call science and what we call the supernatural is very thin.  Slipping between the two is not a difficult task.  The main key is imagination and watching the imagination become a reality.  How many understand that the Drones were beautiful and represented a strong departure from the average disk or blur.  They will remain with me forever and I have never felt apologetic for my involvement with them.  It came from a place that has little human reason and in most cases only a dream may reach this place.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on November 29, 2010, 10:24:54 AM
Correct Ted, IMO.  The Drone is a very solid and a real material object.  The thing that mystifies people is that it appears to fade from view.   Then it moves and reappears.  This is gives the viewer a skipping and rather disjointed visual impression. 

The strange umbrella structure on top is the device that causes the Drone craft to disappear to our eyes because it interferes with how visual light is received onto the retina of the eye.  This is because something or someone is turning it on and off.

The Drone is not moving in and out of Time or this earth dimension.

I would suspect we have the Inventory photo because a government somehow took down a Drone.

Drones...very real and solid.

Douglas

This whole Drone saga would have been just another of many UFO sightings over the past decades if it had not been for Issac.  Issac elevated these sightings onto a plain that has not existed before.  His letters, documents and obvious desire to explain it, is history in the making.  Too bad that a lot of websites and various individuals with agendas gave him the brush-off.

All of this is what prompted me to research the sightings of wheels and "doughnut" shaped UFOs over the past several hundred years.  Much to my astonishment, I discovered that Drones, as they are now called, are nothing new.

Douglas................

Well said Douglas on both counts.

Humanity's perception of the universe is a result of our evolution on this planet and interaction with its ecosystem. Yet we perceive only a fraction of the information available in the classical realm, let alone the quantum. Technology has allowed us to exceed our evolutionary constraints and see beyond the limitations of our perception - in the classical realm.

Paradoxically, I believe that 'extra-dimensions' exist, infinitely so, but that this 'information' is stable only when it is rooted/embeded in the complex chiral-fractal information that represents this our classical 3D space-time universe and that which is. All else is an imaginary state - that which is not - an unstable duality and sum of complex possibilities.

In the context of humans, if telepathy exists it is not a natural construct of the evolutionary process that influenced the rise of the average joe. Technologically at ultra-proximate distances to the human brain it may be possible to transmit/receive information via a set of devices which enable a telepathic process. I am not saying that telepathy does not exist, only that my knowledge of the scientific data suggests there is no evidence of this in 'test subjects' supposedly representative of the average joe. If it exists, it is not the norm... and more than likely would be the result of advanced engineering - biological or otherwise. In our future, such devices as mentioned above may one day be common place... but I suggest by such time our species would be unrecognisable to us, here in the now.
 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 29, 2010, 11:14:43 PM
No, telepathy is not a given thing, if it was, we would cease to exist as private human beings. Of course we need private thinking,
if this was not given, we never would be what we are.

Somehow there is a correlation between the thoughts and the reality. Sometimes this is in something called "the gray zone".

This refers to that some people (very few) are geared to percieve vibrations (read:waves) from that narrow spectrum. It's
a very small and yet concrete band, and a much neglected incidence of the scientific world. Some interpret it as "ghostly apparitions" and
some see it as "Alien encounters". Some experience this in dreams, some when they are exited from having a "special moment" in their life,
like seeing long lost family members standing for them. All as hallucinations, to use an expression of science. But very known happenings,
allthough concealed by most.

This reception might just be occuring, because it takes more than an electron microscope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_microscope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_microscope)
to divide these separations, that occur in some peoples mind..

It might have roots in the very strong force that binds eg. electrons to an atom, some almost indestructable force. Yet it can be manipulated.

Here the string theory kicks in, as well as the quantum theory.

Especially the "Entanglement Theory", as the workings of two objects, say atoms...are entangled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement)

What if some of our neurons in our brain are entangled? Why not suppose this?

Once created, separated - and still connected? Still in connection with the "twin"? And where is the "twin" located? In our Universe, or in another
dimension? Or is it here, on this Earth, entangled in someone elses brain? That would give meaning to what we know as "Kindred Spirits!"  http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/kindred+spirit.html (http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/kindred+spirit.html)
Maybe it is inherited? This has wide speculation terms to serve...

If there is such a thing as telepathy, and I'm sure there is, it has to follow the rules upon this Cosmos is built. And there must be a narrow
band where this is administrated. By whom, is upto your own imagination. Could be God, could be science, most likely Alien science...

The next rulers of this world may be the owners of the Drones, or any other civilisation that will take over when this industrial civilisation
of ours run out of time and ideas...and finally ends just like many unsuccesful civilisations that ruled places of this planet. (And still we
look to the Mayan Calendar for omens!)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: OZfZO on November 29, 2010, 11:22:58 PM
Http://www.psionicsonline.net (http://Http://www.psionicsonline.net)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 05, 2010, 12:14:40 AM
I can not say that I have received any extra information about the Drones.  When I saw the first image of the Drones, I was intrigued and fascinated by the design.  The image looked very familiar, but no scene was involved, just the image.  The Big Basin Drone is either a true masterpiece or the real thing.  Its incorporation of the LAP is truly startling.  I have examined this craft closely and it is incredible.  The shadow issues are spurious at best.  The only excuse for my involvement and the "character" I played is the desire to keep the saga alive for what reasons I am not sure.
L E V I A T H A N

I had the same experience, when I saw the images of the "Drones" and the LAP. Somehow it seemed "familiar". I can't explain it, but that was what I felt.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 05, 2010, 12:23:57 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/dec/HQ_10-320_Toxic_Life.html (http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/dec/HQ_10-320_Toxic_Life.html)


RELEASE : 10-320  NASA-Funded Research Discovers Life Built With Toxic Chemical   WASHINGTON -- NASA-funded astrobiology research has changed the fundamental knowledge about what comprises all known life on Earth.

Researchers conducting tests in the harsh environment of Mono Lake in California have discovered the first known microorganism on Earth able to thrive and reproduce using the toxic chemical arsenic. The microorganism substitutes arsenic for phosphorus in its cell components.

"The definition of life has just expanded," said Ed Weiler, NASA's associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate at the agency's Headquarters in Washington. "As we pursue our efforts to seek signs of life in the solar system, we have to think more broadly, more diversely and consider life as we do not know it."

This finding of an alternative biochemistry makeup will alter biology textbooks and expand the scope of the search for life beyond Earth. The research is published in this week's edition of Science Express.

Carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur are the six basic building blocks of all known forms of life on Earth. Phosphorus is part of the chemical backbone of DNA and RNA, the structures that carry genetic instructions for life, and is considered an essential element for all living cells.

Phosphorus is a central component of the energy-carrying molecule in all cells (adenosine triphosphate) and also the phospholipids that form all cell membranes. Arsenic, which is chemically similar to phosphorus, is poisonous for most life on Earth. Arsenic disrupts metabolic pathways because chemically it behaves similarly to phosphate.

"We know that some microbes can breathe arsenic, but what we've found is a microbe doing something new -- building parts of itself out of arsenic," said Felisa Wolfe-Simon, a NASA astrobiology research fellow in residence at the U.S. Geological Survey in Menlo Park, Calif., and the research team's lead scientist. "If something here on Earth can do something so unexpected, what else can life do that we haven't seen yet?"

The newly discovered microbe, strain GFAJ-1, is a member of a common group of bacteria, the Gammaproteobacteria. In the laboratory, the researchers successfully grew microbes from the lake on a diet that was very lean on phosphorus, but included generous helpings of arsenic. When researchers removed the phosphorus and replaced it with arsenic the microbes continued to grow. Subsequent analyses indicated that the arsenic was being used to produce the building blocks of new GFAJ-1 cells.

The key issue the researchers investigated was when the microbe was grown on arsenic did the arsenic actually became incorporated into the organisms' vital biochemical machinery, such as DNA, proteins and the cell membranes. A variety of sophisticated laboratory techniques were used to determine where the arsenic was incorporated.

The team chose to explore Mono Lake because of its unusual chemistry, especially its high salinity, high alkalinity, and high levels of arsenic. This chemistry is in part a result of Mono Lake's isolation from its sources of fresh water for 50 years.

The results of this study will inform ongoing research in many areas, including the study of Earth's evolution, organic chemistry, biogeochemical cycles, disease mitigation and Earth system research. These findings also will open up new frontiers in microbiology and other areas of research.

"The idea of alternative biochemistries for life is common in science fiction," said Carl Pilcher, director of the NASA Astrobiology Institute at the agency's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. "Until now a life form using arsenic as a building block was only theoretical, but now we know such life exists in Mono Lake."

The research team included scientists from the U.S. Geological Survey, Arizona State University in Tempe, Ariz., Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., Duquesne University in Pittsburgh and the Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lightsource in Menlo Park.

NASA's Astrobiology Program in Washington contributed funding for the research through its Exobiology and Evolutionary Biology program and the NASA Astrobiology Institute. NASA's Astrobiology Program supports research into the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life on Earth.

For more information about the finding and a complete list of researchers, visit:


http://astrobiology.nasa.gov (http://astrobiology.nasa.gov)   

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 21, 2010, 11:04:06 PM
http://emis.mi.ras.ru/journals/LRG/Articles/lrr-2004-7/ (http://emis.mi.ras.ru/journals/LRG/Articles/lrr-2004-7/)

http://scienceandreason.blogspot.com/2006/06/braneworld-black-holes-and-fourth.html (http://scienceandreason.blogspot.com/2006/06/braneworld-black-holes-and-fourth.html)

http://archive.sciencewatch.com/july-aug2002/sw_july-aug2002_page6.htm (http://archive.sciencewatch.com/july-aug2002/sw_july-aug2002_page6.htm)

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060626_mystery_monday.html (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060626_mystery_monday.html)

http://www.web-books.com/GoodPost/Articles/Creation.htm (http://www.web-books.com/GoodPost/Articles/Creation.htm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brane_cosmology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brane_cosmology)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 21, 2010, 11:28:30 PM
All matter might inhabit what we call "Waves"!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality)

http://glafreniere.com/matter.htm (http://glafreniere.com/matter.htm)

http://www.lightandmatter.com/html_books/6mr/ch04/ch04.html (http://www.lightandmatter.com/html_books/6mr/ch04/ch04.html)

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-matter-waves.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-matter-waves.htm)

http://www.rwc.uc.edu/koehler/biophys/9g.html (http://www.rwc.uc.edu/koehler/biophys/9g.html)

WSM = Wave Structure of Matter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BTcmuGdLCU#)

Physics: Matter Waves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOs7oPETZc0#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 03, 2011, 12:40:38 AM
3D projection! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCN34hzlqv8#)

Amazing 3D laser projector (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55QsQXLHlCA#)

Building Projection 3D Mapping.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRDtacd6_xA#ws)

Happy New Year to all here on The Drone Research Team Forum from EVS!!

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 22, 2011, 01:53:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory)

http://weirdsciences.net/2010/04/22/fourth-spatial-dimension/ (http://weirdsciences.net/2010/04/22/fourth-spatial-dimension/)

At the end of the video you can click on the various items. Sure it relates to the "Isaac" postulates. The Drones might
use the initial sources of the "string theory" to accomplish visibility in multiple dimensions/multiple Universes. This certainly
shows how it could be done. This is just a theory, among others, trying to prove multiple Universes in the Quantum theory in general.
It's not proven true to this day. Just my comment on this. Please feel free to challenge the ideas.


Aren't There Really 11 Dimensions? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfhOBevrN2U#ws)

http://www.blogger.com/profile/18215892812705188148 (http://www.blogger.com/profile/18215892812705188148)

This is an extraordinary communicator of the "unknown theories"..who tries to explain the theories of many renowned scientists.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on January 24, 2011, 01:37:47 AM
EVS, I have always enjoyed your posts and your ability to explore the unknown with openness.  Some can not do that, but assume they have the answer.  It, I have found, is best to leave them to their beliefs.  You see it gets them out of the way.

L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 25, 2011, 11:47:34 PM
Thank you Lev, then this might be even more interesting to you and others:

The Holographic Universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMLVjFrtq6Q#ws)

I myself agree with this observation/theory:

We're Already Dead (But That's Okay) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQMO1eyMRuM#)

 
EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 28, 2011, 11:37:32 PM
I will repeat my post at http://weirdsciences.net/2010/04/22/fourth-spatial-dimension/ (http://weirdsciences.net/2010/04/22/fourth-spatial-dimension/) here, so that you can take a stand.

Quote
EVS says:
January 26, 2011 at 2:12 am
If time is an extra dimension, it allows more dimensionsâ?¦only if time is a wave, it has to have directionâ?¦and it has. We as humans knows time as a fact that weâ??re born with, and follows as we live our lives. If time is a direction, it has to follow the cosmic rules. And it does. All matter decay. Meaning that all matter follow the rules of time. If time should ever change, matter will change accordingly. How this unfolds are still a mystery, and if time is a constant, we can presume the birth and the end of the
Universe. If time is local, we are experiencing time locally. Which again means that we are underlaid the Earth time, as long as we exist here on this Earth. Time/matter is inadhesively combined, as long as the local time is inherited as linear structure. If time isnâ??t a constant, we might not exist, at least not in this dimension, as time in this dimension needs to be a constant. To assimilate other time frequenzies, we have yet to learn, otherwise we are Earth bound in our dimension.

Chew a bit on this.

EVS



If you have any comments, I'll appreciate it very much. Thanks,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on January 29, 2011, 01:40:35 AM
The Urantia book talks about Time:

Time and space are inseparable only in the time-space creations, the seven superuniverses. Nontemporal space (space without time) theoretically exists, but the only truly nontemporal place is Paradise area [Paradise in the absolute center of all space-creation where Time almost stands still]. Nonspatial time (time without space) exists in mind of the Paradise level of function.

During our time-space careers, there are many areas ripe for exploration. Perhaps time is the concept most closely related to personal experience. For example, in Paper 12 of the Urantia Book, we are presented with the "three levels of time cognizance."

1. Mind-perceived time consciousness of sequence, motion, and a sense of duration.

2. Spirit-perceived time insight into motion Godward and the awareness of the motion of ascent to levels of increasing divinity.

3. Personality creates a unique time sense out of insight into Reality plus a consciousness of presence and an awareness of duration.

There are seven different conceptions of space as it is conditioned by time.

If you were on Paradise and saw a TV view of earth, Time would appear to be going extremely fast.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 29, 2011, 03:59:07 AM
Hi Douglas

What you describe from the book of Urantia, is different ways of perception of time. Very good, thanks!

---o0o---

If we assume the Drones appears through dimensional ways, they sure can be "trapped" as what
happened when we see the "Hangar photo". My guess is, that the drone on the hangar photo was brought
down by accident, using military equipment, maybe it was "catched" when using weaponry utilities, and it
happend to interact with the Drone equipment. That could answer why the debries are in the hangar. The
photo might be earlier of origin, as many controversive (and secretive) experiments was conducted during
WW2, or it could relate to ditto during the cold war. It never has been discussed in a larger scale, it just
might be the answer to why the "hangar photo" seems so real. Just a few moments later it became
"National secret".


Well, this is as good an explanation as any, if any of you have any other explanation, feel free to let us all know! 

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: longjourneytolight on January 29, 2011, 04:17:32 AM
The Urantia book talks about Time:

Time and space are inseparable only in the time-space creations, the seven superuniverses. Nontemporal space (space without time) theoretically exists, but the only truly nontemporal place is Paradise area [
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Paradise in the absolute center of all space-creation where Time almost stands still
]. Nonspatial time (time without space) exists in mind of the Paradise level of function.

During our time-space careers, there are many areas ripe for exploration. Perhaps time is the concept most closely related to personal experience. For example, in Paper 12 of the Urantia Book, we are presented with the "three levels of time cognizance."

1. Mind-perceived time consciousness of sequence, motion, and a sense of duration.

2. Spirit-perceived time insight into motion Godward and the awareness of the motion of ascent to levels of increasing divinity.

3. Personality creates a unique time sense out of insight into Reality plus a consciousness of presence and an awareness of duration.

There are seven different conceptions of space as it is conditioned by time.

If you were on Paradise and saw a TV view of earth, Time would appear to be going extremely fast.
Quite interesting. "Paradise, the absolute center of all space Creation" Much as the Greek paradise of Xanadu and Teds Reference to the paradise of Oltissis  ??? Something in it......
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Prosopon on January 29, 2011, 04:20:46 AM
I have indeed performed some of your suggested research on time and dimensions and both of you just might be right.

The book of Urantia, without my having read it in entirety, presupposes a belief in GOD, or am I misreading?

So how do atheists and pure scientists reconcile one belief or another is what I'm wondering?

But my major question would be how does GOD interact with time?

That book at 2000+ pages sure does contain much to think about and I wonder how much is true...
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Prosopon on January 29, 2011, 04:25:07 AM
Oh, pardon me EVS, but a question as I am a newcomer here...

When you refer to the "hangar photo" which particular drone photo are you referring to?

I just want to be sure I am on the same page as you all.

Thank you,

~P
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 29, 2011, 04:29:02 AM
Oh, pardon me EVS, but a question as I am a newcomer here...

When you refer to the "hangar photo" which particular drone photo are you referring to?

I just want to be sure I am on the same page as you all.

Thank you,

~P

No trouble at all  ;) and welcome to the DRT Forum! This is the "Hangar photo":

http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/pacl-q385-inventory-review-fullsize.jpg (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/pacl-q385-inventory-review-fullsize.jpg)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on January 29, 2011, 04:29:22 AM
Hi Douglas

What you describe from the book of Urantia, is different ways of perception of time. Very good, thanks!

---o0o---

If we assume the Drones appears through dimensional ways, they sure can be "trapped" as what
happened when we see the "Hangar photo". My guess is, that the drone on the hangar photo was brought
down by accident, using military equipment, maybe it was "catched" when using weaponry utilities, and it
happend to interact with the Drone equipment. That could answer why the debries are in the hangar. The
photo might be earlier of origin, as many controversive (and secretive) experiments was conducted during
WW2, or it could relate to ditto during the cold war. It never has been discussed in a larger scale, it just
might be the answer to why the "hangar photo" seems so real. Just a few moments later it became
"National secret".

Well, this is as good an explanation as any, if any of you have any other explanation, feel free to let us all know! 

EVS

The "Hanger" photo is the most stunning photo I have ever seen concerning UFOs.  It's very real and solid.

 For myself, I do not believe the Drones are 'inter-dimensional'  [but they are able to be invisible because of the cloaking device they contain].  I believe the Nordic space people keep them in their mother-ship and release them into earth area for their monitoring of this planet.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on January 29, 2011, 04:32:38 AM
Oh, pardon me EVS, but a question as I am a newcomer here...

When you refer to the "hangar photo" which particular drone photo are you referring to?

I just want to be sure I am on the same page as you all.

Thank you,

~P

No trouble at all  ;) and welcome to the DRT Forum! This is the "Hangar photo":

http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/pacl-q385-inventory-review-fullsize.jpg (http://droneteam.com/history/isaac/pacl-q385-inventory-review-fullsize.jpg)

Sometimes the "Hanger" photo is called the Inventory Photo because it is located on the Inventory Page of the Issac PACL documents.   

 for clarification....:-))

EVS is one of our most interesting and long time members!
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on January 30, 2011, 03:30:38 AM
But I am the most infamous.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Prosopon on January 30, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
Perhaps what you say is in fact true, but I have read elsewhere that the drone subject itself is not worthy of further comment and is, as a matter of fact, dead.

Not so here and I for one am grateful.

A am curious why someone would brag at being a hoaxer unless I am missing something again and it is as you say a practical joke.

If for humor so where are the smiley faces to indicate that statuse here?
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Prosopon on January 30, 2011, 04:20:33 PM
I too have looked and examined the only apparent photograph of disassembled alien gear spread out on what you so kindly explained as being on on the hanger floor.

I have also performed my own rreading of most all the work done here and on other sites on this photo and have 2 questions on this interesting picture.

1.) Has anyone determined the size of the hanger debris?

2.) Is there any writing (alien or otherwise) visible on the disassembled alien craft pieces?

3.) Other than that chap Isaac's word and explanation, is there any other solid references to these photographed pieces being particularly alien in origin or could they be possibly be man-made?

There is so much research data on this droneteam site and links and such that I might have missed reading these determinations so please forgive my relative ineptitude and slow computer graphic systems.

~P
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on January 30, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
1.) Has anyone determined the size of the hanger debris?
The sizes of the drone parts, including the tarmac pieces, are examined in the following thread:
http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=20.0 (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=20.0)

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2.) Is there any writing (alien or otherwise) visible on the disassembled alien craft pieces?
I do not recall  any investigation of examining the tarmac pieces for writing, but there is possibly one symbol on the tarmac pieces in comparison to some of the other CARET case writing:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/onthefence55/flowersimilarity.jpg)

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3.) Other than that chap Isaac's word and explanation, is there any other solid references to these photographed pieces being particularly alien in origin or could they be possibly be man-made?
Well, there is really nothing solid that the photos are real. I mean no one has produced a hard chunk of physical piece matching any of the photos. So far we can only go by the witness testimony of seeing these things in action and try to find a parallel to any man-made phenomenon that is similar.

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on January 30, 2011, 10:52:57 PM
Does Satan need to show his horns to be Satan!  Of course there is more here, this story is far from finished and I have no jokes to tell. Look to the dates that the images appeared and to their positions within the images.  Since I am a hoaxer should you really listen!
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on January 31, 2011, 05:25:18 AM

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3.) Other than that chap Isaac's word and explanation, is there any other solid references to these photographed pieces being particularly alien in origin or could they be possibly be man-made?
Well, there is really nothing solid that the photos are real. I mean no one has produced a hard chunk of physical piece matching any of the photos. So far we can only go by the witness testimony of seeing these things in action and try to find a parallel to any man-made phenomenon that is similar.

There seems to be a link with Roswell. See my post regarding Jesse Marcel Jr and the I-beam symbols:
http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=718.msg7839#msg7839 (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=718.msg7839#msg7839)

Jesse Marcel Jr.

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/beams_symbols_compare.html (http://roswellproof.homestead.com/beams_symbols_compare.html)

Now watch the video report on Discovery Science: The World's Strangest UFO Stories. Roswell

Take particular note of part 2 and part 3 of this video below. It gives the witness account of M.D. Jesse Marcel Junior and his statements on the Roswell debris and the I-beam symbols discovered by his father in 1947. Stanton Friedman interviewed Major Jesse Marcel Senior as part of his Roswell investigation.
[DSC] WSUS - Roswell The Truth-2.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHwEvsC0ev8#)

[DSC] WSUS - Roswell The Truth-3.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amrx9OaAJks#)

In the same video, part 3, Dave Thomas reiterates USAF claims regarding Project Mogul that the funny symbols on the Roswell 'weather balloon' were actually scotch tape inlaid with symbols used for a certain type of toy. However Jesse Marcel Junior refutes the USAF claims and states that these symbols are NOT the same. Jesse shows his reproduction of the Roswell I-beam symbols. Beware the disinformation and fake symbols out there on the internet regarding these symbols. (See part 3 of the videos above, 6.10min onwards)

Jesse Marcel Jr's affadavit of the Roswell I-beam symbols is available online.
[Source: Karl Pflock, Roswell in Perspective, 1994.

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/beams_symbols_compare.html (http://roswellproof.homestead.com/beams_symbols_compare.html)
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Marcel_Jr.html (http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Marcel_Jr.html)

More investigation brings up the claim that Jesse Marcel originally drew these symbols from memory on Sunday, July 6, 1947 after seeing the Roswell material presented by his father and he later made another rendition in 1989.

We'd have to ask Jesse Marcel Jr to verify the date that he first drew these symbols, but from the video above and the symbols shown in his affadavit, it's clear there is a strong match of the CARET symbols to his Roswell I-beam symbols.

More interesting reading here from Jesse Marcel Sr and other Roswell witnesses: 'The figures were composed of curved geometric shapes...' :o

http://www.sunrisepage.com/roswell.htm (http://www.sunrisepage.com/roswell.htm)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: DroneTeamNews on January 31, 2011, 05:44:30 AM
If you have any comments, I'll appreciate it very much. Thanks,
EVS

Hi EVS,

I don't always have the same conceptual understanding as yourself regarding 'that which is' - our universe. But I do enjoy your occasional video presentations. I thought you might find this interesting:

Read the abstract / introduction and you'll get an idea...
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1101/1101.2565v1.pdf (http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1101/1101.2565v1.pdf)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: longjourneytolight on January 31, 2011, 07:13:13 PM
If you have any comments, I'll appreciate it very much. Thanks,
EVS

Hi EVS,

I don't always have the same conceptual understanding as yourself regarding 'that which is' - our universe. But I do enjoy your occasional video presentations. I thought you might find this interesting:

Read the abstract / introduction and you'll get an idea...
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1101/1101.2565v1.pdf (http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1101/1101.2565v1.pdf)
I believe the LESSON we should learn from the 1947 Roswell incident is that if YOU have witnessed anything in regards to Unknown Flying Objects or any other Unknown Phenomena, is to come forward with your story. No mater what the THREAT. How many documented cases of any physical harm to a Witness or their Family or Friends do we know of as a result of a Witness coming forward and relating the truth of an encounter? I think that since the time of Roswell, WE as a People have Grown Up and realized the full truth of the "Government's Game". Threat and Intimidation simply won't work anymore. The search for an answer is too great to be muzzled and the time for the TRUTH is NOW!!!!! Drones, UFO's, USO's, Alien Contact, and any other Unknown Mysteries that seem to defy explanation. If ALL the Witnesses of the Roswell Incident had spoken up in 1947, we might have an answer to this mystery or at least be a whole lot closer to resolving this issue.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on January 31, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
I believe the LESSON we should learn from the 1947 Roswell incident is that if YOU have witnessed anything in regards to Unknown Flying Objects or any other Unknown Phenomena, is to come forward with your story. No mater what the THREAT. How many documented cases of any physical harm to a Witness or their Family or Friends do we know of as a result of a Witness coming forward and relating the truth of an encounter? I think that since the time of Roswell, WE as a People have Grown Up and realized the full truth of the "Government's Game". Threat and Intimidation simply won't work anymore. The search for an answer is too great to be muzzled and the time for the TRUTH is NOW!!!!! Drones, UFO's, USO's, Alien Contact, and any other Unknown Mysteries that seem to defy explanation. If ALL the Witnesses of the Roswell Incident had spoken up in 1947, we might have an answer to this mystery or at least be a whole lot closer to resolving this issue.
Very well said LJTL!
Were they scared into silence with the threat of being treasonous to their country? Or were they shut up with threats to their life?
Care should always be taken, but intimidation should not result in retreat.
I just cannot agree that any government or military group should have sole access to such non-human secrets, as much as I try to think of reasons why it should be kept secret, nothing makes sense.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: longjourneytolight on January 31, 2011, 08:37:49 PM
I believe the LESSON we should learn from the 1947 Roswell incident is that if YOU have witnessed anything in regards to Unknown Flying Objects or any other Unknown Phenomena, is to come forward with your story. No mater what the THREAT. How many documented cases of any physical harm to a Witness or their Family or Friends do we know of as a result of a Witness coming forward and relating the truth of an encounter? I think that since the time of Roswell, WE as a People have Grown Up and realized the full truth of the "Government's Game". Threat and Intimidation simply won't work anymore. The search for an answer is too great to be muzzled and the time for the TRUTH is NOW!!!!! Drones, UFO's, USO's, Alien Contact, and any other Unknown Mysteries that seem to defy explanation. If ALL the Witnesses of the Roswell Incident had spoken up in 1947, we might have an answer to this mystery or at least be a whole lot closer to resolving this issue.
Very well said LJTL!
Were they scared into silence with the threat of being treasonous to their country? Or were they shut up with threats to their life?
Care should always be taken, but intimidation should not result in retreat.
I just cannot agree that any government or military group should have sole access to such non-human secrets, as much as I try to think of reasons why it should be kept secret, nothing makes sense.
Thanks OTF, and thanks EVS for the enlightening videos on Roswell. It seems ironic that as a people are willing to give our lives for our Nations without Reservation in defense of those nations with bravery that defies description. But when it comes to the possible defense of all Mankind and Our Planet WE are afraid to come forward if WE witness a Strange Craft or have Contact with an Alien Being for fear of being ostracized, harmed, or threatened by OUR own Governments or Secret Agencies for whom WE have served, protected and defended sometimes at the ultimate expense of our lives.   
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 31, 2011, 10:45:24 PM
I believe the LESSON we should learn from the 1947 Roswell incident is that if YOU have witnessed anything in regards to Unknown Flying Objects or any other Unknown Phenomena, is to come forward with your story. No mater what the THREAT. How many documented cases of any physical harm to a Witness or their Family or Friends do we know of as a result of a Witness coming forward and relating the truth of an encounter? I think that since the time of Roswell, WE as a People have Grown Up and realized the full truth of the "Government's Game". Threat and Intimidation simply won't work anymore. The search for an answer is too great to be muzzled and the time for the TRUTH is NOW!!!!! Drones, UFO's, USO's, Alien Contact, and any other Unknown Mysteries that seem to defy explanation. If ALL the Witnesses of the Roswell Incident had spoken up in 1947, we might have an answer to this mystery or at least be a whole lot closer to resolving this issue.
Very well said LJTL!
Were they scared into silence with the threat of being treasonous to their country? Or were they shut up with threats to their life?
Care should always be taken, but intimidation should not result in retreat.
I just cannot agree that any government or military group should have sole access to such non-human secrets, as much as I try to think of reasons why it should be kept secret, nothing makes sense.
Thanks OTF, and thanks EVS for the enlightening videos on Roswell. It seems ironic that as a people are willing to give our lives for our Nations without Reservation in defense of those nations with bravery that defies description. But when it comes to the possible defense of all Mankind and Our Planet WE are afraid to come forward if WE witness a Strange Craft or have Contact with an Alien Being for fear of being ostracized, harmed, or threatened by OUR own Governments or Secret Agencies for whom WE have served, protected and defended sometimes at the ultimate expense of our lives.

I can't take credit for the Roswell videos. The member iamiamiam presented those videos.(if we're talking recent posts)

I also have posted Roswell videos, and I sure believe that incident was surpressed just
like the Drone incident was.

I only hope, that my presentations here, video or text is inspiring for anyone interested in the "Drone Mystery".

I only and solely want to ignite ideas to help solve this puzzle.

I am very pleased with the discussion, and hope you carry on the investigation! Thanks!

You certainly do not have to agree with what I present, I also have to take a stand at the various subjects, and
some might be too far out to believe at first glance. But if one investigate it further, it sometimes awakens a thought
that otherwise might have been discarded.

I am glad you use my stuff. What more can I say?

Kind regards, and keep an open mind, it'll reward itself in the end,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 31, 2011, 11:42:19 PM
This is Earth drone tech. If we can do this now, is it far out to suggest it's been done before, with other materials
and other means of flight methods? :

HighTechDad Flies the Parrot AR.Drone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRDYdZxkXnQ#ws)

EVS

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 12, 2011, 03:05:52 AM
Do you remember my theory about "The Shadow Universe" published a long time ago in Vonstern Magazine? This is close to that:

Holographic Universe (Part 1 of 5 ) its all illusion. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnvM_YAwX4I#)

Holographic Universe ( Part 2 0f 5 ) its all illusion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9FO7JGWq4#)

The Holographic Universe 3 of 5 ( The Kabbalah Connection ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yydx1vvUVlc#)

Holographic Universe 4 of 5 ( Dimensional Travel & The Wave Form Universe) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_YMpns3WUA#)

Holographic Universe 5 of 5 ( The Truth about The All Seeing Eye ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t2rPiV6S_A#)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 13, 2011, 02:44:29 AM
Gravity, Branes And Hidden Dimensions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPVK08G8Fk#ws)

'The God Particle': The Higgs Boson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_HrQVhgbeo#ws)

Supersymmetry, Extra Dimensions and the Origin of Mass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdbnwaW34g#)

For the newest information please go here:

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/ (http://public.web.cern.ch/public/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 13, 2011, 03:13:54 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/10/20/us-science-cern-idUSTRE69J35X20101020 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/10/20/us-science-cern-idUSTRE69J35X20101020)

http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/article905393.ece/CERN-scientists-moving-ahead-cautiously (http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/article905393.ece/CERN-scientists-moving-ahead-cautiously)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 07, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2005/16nov_gpb/ (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2005/16nov_gpb/)

NASA's Gravity Probe B spacecraft has gathered all the data physicists need to check a bizarre prediction of Einstein's relativity.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/ (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/)

May 4, 2011: Einstein was right again. There is a space-time vortex around Earth, and its shape precisely matches the predictions of Einstein's theory of gravity.

"The space-time around Earth appears to be distorted just as general relativity predicts," says Stanford University physicist Francis Everitt, principal investigator of the Gravity Probe B mission.

--o0o--

New Discovery about the Fabric of Space-Time (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb320c)

--o0o--

http://www.stanford.edu/ (http://www.stanford.edu/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Prosopon on May 08, 2011, 11:00:56 PM
Yes I read that too EVS...and then this shows up at the same time:

Quote
May 5, 2011 -By Alan Henry

CERN Researchers Capture Antimatter, Trap It for a Quarter Hour

Scientists at the Antihydrogen Laser Physics Apparatus (ALPHA,) a branch of CERN (the European Organization for Nuclear Research,) have managed to trap atoms of antihydrogen in a magnetic trap for 1000 seconds, or 10,000 times longer than any antimatter particle has been trapped before.



http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2384954,00.asp (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2384954,00.asp)

and more here:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20438-fleeting-antimatter-trapped-for-a-quarter-of-an-hour.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20438-fleeting-antimatter-trapped-for-a-quarter-of-an-hour.html)

Total time was about 17 minutes actually...

So warping of spacetime plus antimatter means that STAR TREK was right all along since at least 1968 or thereabouts, minimum.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 19, 2011, 11:06:19 PM
http://science.au.dk/en/studies/phd-studies/about-agsos/phd-defences/phd-defences/artikel/forskere-fra-au-og-dtu-viser-at-partikler-fra-rummet-skaber-skydaekke/ (http://science.au.dk/en/studies/phd-studies/about-agsos/phd-defences/phd-defences/artikel/forskere-fra-au-og-dtu-viser-at-partikler-fra-rummet-skaber-skydaekke/)

"New input to the United Nations climate model: Ulrik Ingerslev Uggerhøj, Physics and Astronomy, AU, along with others including Jens Olaf Pepke Pedersen and Martin Bødker Enghoff, DTU Space, have directly demonstrated in a new experiment that cosmic radiation can create small floating particles â?? so-called aerosols â?? in the atmosphere. By doing so, they substantiate the connection between the Sunâ??s magnetic activity and the Earthâ??s climate."

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 20, 2011, 02:00:45 AM
While waiting for Isaac to reply, here's a few videos to consider in the understanding of our Universe:

How energy can create matter - Six Billion Dollar Experiment - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cbaMj883c#ws)


When Will Time End? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OFThORmR-s#ws)


EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 23, 2011, 11:11:12 PM
William Pawelec Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4#noexternalembed)

Mr. William Pawelec was a U.S. Air Force computer operations and programming specialist with numerous credentials in security technologies and access control systems. He gave this interview with Dr. Greer prior to the 2001 National Press Club Disclosure event and asked that it not be released until after his death. We recently found out that Mr. William Pawelec passed away on May 22, 2007 and we received permission to release it in December 2010.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 19, 2011, 09:32:01 AM
How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 1

How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9nIMgdpuw#)


How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 2

http://youtu.be/E_zEdA0eJTM (http://youtu.be/E_zEdA0eJTM)


How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 3

http://youtu.be/xs-X1Ria8BU (http://youtu.be/xs-X1Ria8BU)


How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 4

http://youtu.be/nAEYQuR16P4 (http://youtu.be/nAEYQuR16P4)


How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 5

http://youtu.be/7-GLXGhbyrU (http://youtu.be/7-GLXGhbyrU)


How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 6

http://youtu.be/uQeKMfK95AA (http://youtu.be/uQeKMfK95AA)


How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 7

http://youtu.be/t-BYMYJ8F9U (http://youtu.be/t-BYMYJ8F9U)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 22, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
Stephen Hawking: 'Science Makes God Unnecessary' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUyJfzJB-kA#)

Stephen Hawking: Asking big questions about the universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBIsp8mS-c#ws)

Brian Greene: The universe on a string (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtdE662eY_M#)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Greene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Greene)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on August 31, 2011, 10:41:08 PM
There are so many theories of Dimensional Travelling, here's a few:

http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddimensiontravel/a/aa031708.htm (http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddimensiontravel/a/aa031708.htm)

http://paranormal.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=18&gps=75_6_1680_967&f=00&tt=14&bt=0&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.labyrinthina.com/void.htm (http://paranormal.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=18&gps=75_6_1680_967&f=00&tt=14&bt=0&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.labyrinthina.com/void.htm)

http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddimensiontravel/f/faq_dimension_slip.htm (http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddimensiontravel/f/faq_dimension_slip.htm)

http://paranormal.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=5&gps=171_5_1680_967&f=00&tt=14&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.drbrucegoldberg.com/TimeTravelers.htm (http://paranormal.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=5&gps=171_5_1680_967&f=00&tt=14&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.drbrucegoldberg.com/TimeTravelers.htm)

http://www.wingmakers.co.nz/Dimensional_Travel.html (http://www.wingmakers.co.nz/Dimensional_Travel.html)

All good reading, judge for yourself.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 14, 2011, 10:55:34 PM
"A high ranking official with top secret access admits the government used alien technology to make many things we use today":

General Admits To Reverse Technology From Pieces Of Roswell Alien Craft Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NektalbjPDY#)

--o0o--

UFO Crash - Col. Philip J. Corso - The Day After Roswell, Part 1 - Video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/621027/)

UFO Crash - Col. Philip J. Corso - The Day After Roswell, Part 2 - Video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/621048/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 23, 2011, 09:33:55 AM
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html)

Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space

A theory of reality beyond Einstein's universe is taking shape â?? and a mysterious cosmic signal could soon fill in the blanks

"IT WASN'T so long ago we thought space and time were the absolute and unchanging scaffolding of the universe. Then along came Albert Einstein, who showed that different observers can disagree about the length of objects and the timing of events. His theory of relativity unified space and time into a single entity - space-time. It meant the way we thought about the fabric of reality would never be the same again. "Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade into mere shadows," declared mathematician Hermann Minkowski. "Only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.""

(Link provided by the DRT Forum member spinnewise)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on September 23, 2011, 12:36:42 PM
So... looks like we are part of some Rubiks cube then... :P

Or Lisi is on to it as well a bit ?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Garrett_Lisi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Garrett_Lisi)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: spinnewise on September 23, 2011, 03:56:51 PM
thanks for posting it EVS  :)

this theory takes care of the fact that our universe is not made of 3-dimensional things but of 4-dimensional events
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 24, 2011, 01:10:10 AM
Neutrinos travels faster than light?:

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html (http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 24, 2011, 03:31:52 AM
tomi,- you are onto something great! Very beautiful to watch!  :D

Garrett Lisi: A beautiful new theory of everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Gk_Ddhr0M#ws)

EVS

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: 10538 on September 28, 2011, 03:24:10 AM
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html)

Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space

A theory of reality beyond Einstein's universe is taking shape â??
EVS

Very interesting, EVS.  Thanks for posting that.  My thoughts are that reality is actually something very similar.  I don't really think we can ever get close to the truth until we let go of all that Einstein dogma.  That in my opinion, is holding science back.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 28, 2011, 06:42:59 PM
Quote
Very interesting, EVS.  Thanks for posting that.  My thoughts are that reality is actually something very similar.  I don't really think we can ever get close to the truth until we let go of all that Einstein dogma.  That in my opinion, is holding science back.

Thanks, Numbers!

The real credit should go to spinnewise, as it was provided by this member.

Afraid of making you angry, I want to let you know this:

I think that our world is changing rapidly these years, and as you say, the Einsteinian
rules might not extend into severe quantum mechanisms, allthough Einstein was aware
that there was something "out of the ordinary" that was/is taken place in the Cosmos, even when
he noticed that these theories was beyond even his own theories. So, he actually admits that
there is something like "quantum entanglement", only he wasn't able to fit it into his
many verifiable equations at his time. In fact, these theories did make himself question
his great work on the "theory of everything" that actually was discussed at his time, and
by himself.

---o0o---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement)

Research into quantum entanglement was initiated by the EPR paradox paper of Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen in 1935,[8] and several papers by Erwin Schrödinger shortly thereafter.[9][10] Although these first studies focused on the counterintuitive properties of entanglement, with the aim of criticizing quantum mechanics, eventually entanglement was verified experimentally, and recognized as a valid, fundamental feature of quantum mechanics; the focus of the research has now changed to its utilization as a resource for communication and computation.

---o0o---

"Quantum entanglement is so strange, in fact, that Einstein called it â??spooky action at a distance.â?"

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/quantum-entaglement (http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/quantum-entaglement)

A group of scientists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology recently came a step closer to figuring out where the boundary lies between the quantum and classical physical worlds, and their discovery has big implications for the future of quantum computersâ?? which would have much faster and more powerful processors than our computers do today.

--o0o--

Additional reference:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-entangle/ (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-entangle/)

In 1935 and 1936, Schrödinger published a two-part article in the Proceedings of the Cambridge Philosophical Society in which he discussed and extended a remarkable argument by Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen. The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen (EPR) argument was, in many ways, the culmination of Einstein's critique of the orthodox Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, and was designed to show that the theory is incomplete. (See The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Argument in Quantum Theory and Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.) In classical mechanics the state of a system is essentially a list of the system's properties â?? more precisely, it is the specification of a set of parameters from which the list of properties can be reconstructed: the positions and momenta of all the particles comprising the system (or similar parameters in the case of fields). The dynamics of the theory specifies how properties change in terms of a law of evolution for the state. Pauli characterized this mode of description of physical systems as a â??detached observerâ?? idealization. See Pauli's letter to Born in The Born-Einstein Letters (Born, 1992; p. 218). On the Copenhagen interpretation, such a description is not possible for quantum systems. Instead, the quantum state of a system should be understood as a catalogue of what an observer has done to the system and what has been observed, and the import of the state then lies in the probabilities that can be inferred (in terms of the theory) for the outcomes of possible future observations on the system. Einstein rejected this view and proposed a series of arguments to show that the quantum state is simply an incomplete characterization of the system. The missing parameters are sometimes referred to as â??hidden parametersâ?? or â??hidden variablesâ?? (although Einstein did not use this terminology, presumably because he did not want to endorse any particular â??hidden variableâ?? theory).

--o0o--

But, I sure follow your eagerness to step into this new age, and it sure will bring even more compromises to the old way
of looking at our physical environment. Need I say, better telescopes, so that we can find even more strange worlds, better
microscopes etc. in order to find better healing methods, better Colliders, like the LHC...and I could go on..

Sure, the drones is working many more theories than this, so therefor we continue our search for this even newer technology,
maybe we someday make this our new "theory of everything"...new times, - new thinkers..

So, as you say, and then as I read it, Einstein was quite ahead of his time, may we also find ourselves to be excactly that! Please consider
this before dumping Einstein all the way! To pick up on his heritage takes/requires some deeper thinking!  ;D ;)

Thanks,
EVS
 
PS: There's an even stronger postulate that Einstein might have been wrong, when his theories depends on that
there is nothing in the Universe travelling faster than light, see my previous post:

Quote
Neutrinos travels faster than light?:
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html (http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 30, 2011, 11:38:02 PM
thanks for posting it EVS  :)

this theory takes care of the fact that our universe is not made of 3-dimensional things but of 4-dimensional events

I'm sure there's more here than we are able to fathom as of today's common knowledge.

Someday we will read this and say, "I told you so"  ;D

Believe me, we are (at least Us who are still interested in our progressive human evolvement that this
giant "hint" that this Drone Case is) on the right track here.  :D

I no longer see this "Drone Case" as an elaborate hoax, but as a hint to Us all, to think "out of the box" and
to really consider whom of which we are going to believe, be it scientists or the press, we sure have
to make up our own mind about this!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 30, 2011, 11:57:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_space)

In mathematics and physics, a phase space, introduced by Willard Gibbs in 1901,[1] is a space in which all possible states of a system are represented, with each possible state of the system corresponding to one unique point in the phase space. For mechanical systems, the phase space usually consists of all possible values of position and momentum variables.
 
A plot of position and momentum variables as a function of time is sometimes called a phase plot or a phase diagram. Phase diagram, however, is more usually reserved in the physical sciences for a diagram showing the various regions of stability of the thermodynamic phases of a chemical system, which consists of pressure, temperature, and composition.


---o0o---

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

For the advanced reader:

http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tao/preprints/phase_space.pdf (http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tao/preprints/phase_space.pdf)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 08, 2011, 01:50:22 PM
Brain scan research 'reconstructs images from human minds' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZieFvCtMCc0#ws)

Brain scan research 'reconstructs images from human minds'

--o0o--

Japanese Dream Recording Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZgCQw1rHgY#)

Japanese Dream Recording Machine

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: spinnewise on October 08, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
thanks for posting it EVS  :)

this theory takes care of the fact that our universe is not made of 3-dimensional things but of 4-dimensional events

I'm sure there's more here than we are able to fathom as of today's common knowledge.

Someday we will read this and say, "I told you so"  ;D

Believe me, we are (at least Us who are still interested in our progressive human evolvement that this
giant "hint" that this Drone Case is) on the right track here.  :D

I no longer see this "Drone Case" as an elaborate hoax, but as a hint to Us all, to think "out of the box" and
to really consider whom of which we are going to believe, be it scientists or the press, we sure have
to make up our own mind about this!

EVS

i tend to agree
real or elaborated hoax
there remains a question for me personally:
how did that symbols get into my dreams back in 1967?

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on October 08, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
EVS, with that brain scanning machine, I think they are totally on the wrong track and won't come back... why?  Ok.. look at something.. Close your eyes and then rub your eyes with them closed gently, the image you will see in your "minds eye" is exactly what you were looking at and matches exactly their videos.   This is not reading someone's mind, it is reading someone's retina..  It is identical to what you see when you rub your eyes closed. So.. I dunno about their whole premise, but it is a far cry away from reading someone's mind in my mind.. :)

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 08, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
EVS, with that brain scanning machine, I think they are totally on the wrong track and won't come back... why?  Ok.. look at something.. Close your eyes and then rub your eyes with them closed gently, the image you will see in your "minds eye" is exactly what you were looking at and matches exactly their videos.   This is not reading someone's mind, it is reading someone's retina..  It is identical to what you see when you rub your eyes closed. So.. I dunno about their whole premise, but it is a far cry away from reading someone's mind in my mind.. :)

Oh, this is brain scans, but I know what you're talking about "seeing" the recent picture in your "mind". This is far more than that,
this is reading the center in your brain where images are collected/created:


http://pinktentacle.com/2008/12/scientists-extract-images-directly-from-brain/ (http://pinktentacle.com/2008/12/scientists-extract-images-directly-from-brain/)

Researchers from Japan's ATR Computational Neuroscience Laboratories have developed new brain analysis technology that can reconstruct the images inside a person's mind and display them on a computer monitor, it was announced on December 11. According to the researchers, further development of the technology may soon make it possible to view other people's dreams while they sleep.

The scientists were able to reconstruct various images viewed by a person by analyzing changes in their cerebral blood flow. Using a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) machine, the researchers first mapped the blood flow changes that occurred in the cerebral visual cortex as subjects viewed various images held in front of their eyes. Subjects were shown 400 random 10 x 10 pixel black-and-white images for a period of 12 seconds each. While the fMRI machine monitored the changes in brain activity, a computer crunched the data and learned to associate the various changes in brain activity with the different image designs.

---o0o---

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/09/new-technology-creates-movies-from-brain-scans.html (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/09/new-technology-creates-movies-from-brain-scans.html)

Mind reading, recording dreams ... both the makings of great movies. But what once was science fiction is now one step closer to real science.

A group of researchers from the University of California at Berkeley were able to reconstruct movies clips using scans of their subjects' brain activity.

The report -- published last week in Biology Today, along with images that soon went viral online -- could open the door to advances in health and medicine in the future.

"A therapist might have a patient that says, 'I am feeling horrible and I don't know why.' And he could say, 'Let's look at the images generated in your brain,'" said Thomas Naselaris, one of the study's co-authors and a post doctoral fellow at U.C. Berkeley. "Now I think it's safe to say that the study we just published is a step in that direction, but we don't know how big a step it may be. It could be very small or may be very big."


---o0o---

I am thinking a bit further, when this discovery is fully developed, and used on higher ranking animals (mammals), then
the dish "eggs and bacon" will have a different taste.... :-X

Once we learn how animals see the world, then we might have to write our morals over!

This discovery has enormous potential, if not historical proportions....

---o0o---

EVS

PS: Remember, I'm only the messenger, and are only responsible for the post, not for the content of same, besides my own statements. You all have to make up your own mind from what is presented here, as always.  :D ;D
 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on October 09, 2011, 07:01:07 AM
I'm not sure EVS if anything that I said is any different from what you described.  They are sensing some activity in the brain, the same as we see when we look at something but then close our eyes, and by rubbing the outside of our eyes for me at least it helped to clarify in my mind what my eyes had just seen.  So how is this different?

After reading this article a few weeks ago, I was thinking about it for awhile which is the reason I posted a reply to it after you posted it.  I've thought about it and I think it is another layer of research that just speculates and poses itself in a way that continues to get funding .. but they are not necessarily onto "reading peoples minds".   

For instance..  Here's how I rationalise my assessment of what I've read about it. Think of a penguin.. and an ice cube.  With your eyes wide open.  You don't have to "picture" a penguin in your mind.  You know what one looks like.  And an ice cube.  How big is that ice cube?  Could the Penguin stand on it?  Like is it the size of a box or smaller than the foot of the penguin.. At some stage you might visualise the penguin and ice cube in your mind, where they may be able to sense it, but up to that point, there is a part of the brain where activity takes place that hold your thoughts and thinking way beyond the scope of you trying to visualise it.   Just my opinion.  I personally take a lot of this "research" with a big grain of scepticism.

And try to visualise a big grain of scepticism... :)  That helps make my point !   
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 09, 2011, 09:58:36 AM
I'm not sure EVS if anything that I said is any different from what you described.  They are sensing some activity in the brain, the same as we see when we look at something but then close our eyes, and by rubbing the outside of our eyes for me at least it helped to clarify in my mind what my eyes had just seen.  So how is this different?

After reading this article a few weeks ago, I was thinking about it for awhile which is the reason I posted a reply to it after you posted it.  I've thought about it and I think it is another layer of research that just speculates and poses itself in a way that continues to get funding .. but they are not necessarily onto "reading peoples minds".   

For instance..  Here's how I rationalise my assessment of what I've read about it. Think of a penguin.. and an ice cube.  With your eyes wide open.  You don't have to "picture" a penguin in your mind.  You know what one looks like.  And an ice cube.  How big is that ice cube?  Could the Penguin stand on it?  Like is it the size of a box or smaller than the foot of the penguin.. At some stage you might visualise the penguin and ice cube in your mind, where they may be able to sense it, but up to that point, there is a part of the brain where activity takes place that hold your thoughts and thinking way beyond the scope of you trying to visualise it.   Just my opinion.  I personally take a lot of this "research" with a big grain of scepticism.

And try to visualise a big grain of scepticism... :)  That helps make my point !   

tomi, I see your point! One can't visualize a thought alone, but when we think of a place, or people - even emotions, we "draw" a rough image in a particular part of our brain, and this center are the same place our dreams "materialize".

This technique is about "reading" the visual area of our brain, not to establish where our thoughts originate from. It's certainly not a classic "mind-reading" example.

Besides, this is all in it's infancy, when refined and fully developed it sure will be a good tool, but also something to handle with great care.   :o

Just my thoughts (not readable in a scanner, simple thinking - no pictures!!), tomi   ;D

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 23, 2011, 10:29:27 PM
'Single-Crystal' Superconductors are a Big Step for the Field

http://www.physorg.com/news139139958.html (http://www.physorg.com/news139139958.html)

(PhysOrg.com) -- In key advances for the field of superconductivity, a research group has created versions of a class of widely studied superconducting compounds that are each one continuous crystal, rather than composed of many crystalline grains. These single-crystal materials are important achievements because they display better properties than polycrystalline types and are easier to study.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 23, 2011, 11:26:50 PM
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-10-clock-quantum-mechanics-relativity.html (http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-10-clock-quantum-mechanics-relativity.html)

The unification of quantum mechanics and Einstein's general relativity is one of the most exciting and still open questions in modern physics. General relativity, the joint theory of gravity, space and time gives predictions that become clearly evident on a cosmic scale of stars and galaxies. Quantum effects, on the other hand, are fragile and are typically observed on small scales, e.g. when considering single particles and atoms. That is why it is very hard to test the interplay between quantum mechanics and general relativity. Now theoretical physicists led by Prof. Caslav Brukner at the University of Vienna propose a novel experiment which can probe the overlap of the two theories. The focus of the work is to measure the general relativistic notion of time on a quantum scale. The findings will be published this week in Nature Communications.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 31, 2011, 11:10:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave)

---o0o---

http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.1100 (http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.1100)

The full paper: (High Lights: stationary density wave)

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1004/1004.1100.pdf (http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1004/1004.1100.pdf)

We present a model for cuprate superconductivity based on the identification of an experimentally detected "local superconductor" as a charge 2 fermion pairing in a circular, stationary density wave. This wave acts like a highly correlated local "boson" satisfying a modified Cooper problem with additional correlation stabilization relative to the separate right- and left-handed density waves composing it. This local "boson" could be formed in a two-bound roton-like manner; it has Fermion statistics. Delocalized superconductive pairing (superconductivity) is achieved by a Feshbach resonance of two unpaired holes (electrons) resonating with a virtual energy level of the bound pair state of the local "boson" as described by the Boson-Fermion-Gossamer (BFG) model. The spin-charge order interaction offers an explanation for the overall shape of the superconducting dome as well a microscopic basis for the cuprate superconducting transition temperatures. An explanation of the correlation of superconducting transition temperature with experimental inelastic neutron and electron Raman scattering is proposed, based on the energy of the virtual bound pair. These and other modifications discussed suggest a microscopic explanation for the entire cuprate superconductivity dome shape.

---o0o---

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/standing+wave (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/standing+wave)


standing wave

(Physics / General Physics) Physics the periodic disturbance in a medium resulting from the combination of two waves of equal frequency and intensity travelling in opposite directions. There are generally two kinds of displacement, and the maximum value of the amplitude of one of these occurs at the same points as the minimum value of the amplitude of the other. Thus in the case of electromagnetic radiation the amplitude of the oscillations of the electric field has its greatest value at the points at which the magnetic oscillation is zero, and vice versa Also called stationary wave Compare node, antinode
Collins English Dictionary â?? Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

Exerpts.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 16, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Quantum Levitation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA#ws)

http://io9.com/5850729/quantum-locking-will-blow-your-mind--but-how-does-it-work (http://io9.com/5850729/quantum-locking-will-blow-your-mind--but-how-does-it-work)

http://astc.org/ (http://astc.org/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 01, 2011, 12:28:03 AM
Quantum Revolution 1 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InoMBWnTXpg#ws)

Quantum Revolution 2 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBo5iR62SLc#ws)

Quantum Revolution 3 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2CjIo-zqXc#ws)

Quantum Revolution 4 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dHU7xs3fg#ws)

Quantum Revolution 5 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Uu5nG1XcY#ws)

Quantum Revolution 6 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXzfzpLvAjI#ws)

Just amazing!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 07, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanorobotics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanorobotics)


NANO BOTS (hun sub) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5DKFhHeKU#)

http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2006-07/06-174.html (http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2006-07/06-174.html)

Scientists in Sweden film moving electron for the first time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofp-OHIq6Wo#)

Why Quantum Physics Ends the Free Will Debate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLR5vNKiSw#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 10, 2012, 09:31:29 PM

http://www.thebulletin.org (http://www.thebulletin.org)

"Doomsday Clock moves to five minutes to midnight
 10 January 2012

It is five minutes to midnight. Two years ago, it appeared that world leaders might address the truly global threats that we face. In many cases, that trend has not continued or been reversed. For that reason, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists is moving the clock hand one minute closer to midnight, back to its time in 2007."


For more information:

http://www.thebulletin.org/content/media-center/announcements/2012/01/10/doomsday-clock-moves-to-five-minutes-to-midnight (http://www.thebulletin.org/content/media-center/announcements/2012/01/10/doomsday-clock-moves-to-five-minutes-to-midnight)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 15, 2012, 01:27:24 AM
Just for your information, I've today opened up a new forum, and I hope
all of you here will register. I hope we all this way still can keep our acquaintances
as I find this group of ours to be a very special, yet small corner of the 'Net.

I hope to see all of you here:

http://evs4u.conforums.com (http://evs4u.conforums.com)

You are welcome to join, and this sure doesn't mean that you have to leave the DRT forum,
I'll be here too....but if anything like what happened to the OMF should occur here, we sure should have a place to
meet after that...

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on January 15, 2012, 03:20:45 AM
EXCELLENT.  I have added your forum to my Blog suggested sites.  EXCELLENT.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on January 15, 2012, 06:43:01 PM
Just for your information, I've today opened up a new forum, and I hope
all of you here will register. I hope we all this way still can keep our acquaintances
as I find this group of ours to be a very special, yet small corner of the 'Net.

I hope to see all of you here:

http://evs4u.conforums.com (http://evs4u.conforums.com)

You are welcome to join, and this sure doesn't mean that you have to leave the DRT forum,
I'll be here too....but if anything like what happened to the OMF should occur here, we sure should have a place to
meet after that...

EVS

Ah???? There is nowhere in the registration to put a password and without that password one cannot logon. SPEEDBUMP!

(Password setup mailed to e-mail, changed in profile so now everything is just fine, thanks!)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 25, 2012, 09:50:32 PM
The Space Between Atoms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypne21A0R4#)

The Space Between Atoms

You wouldn't know it to look at it, but the atoms that make up a solid piece of iron contain more space than stuff. How is it then that the whole world doesn't just crumble around us? This video segment adapted from A Science Odyssey uses models, vivid descriptions, and analogies to explain the structural integrity of matter at the atomic level.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 26, 2012, 12:48:40 AM
Full feature movie about time, and how it might be, is available here:

http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=SPC&action=display&num=1332714566&start=0#1332714566 (http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=SPC&action=display&num=1332714566&start=0#1332714566)

Takes about 1 hour of your time, but I assure you, it's worth every second of your time.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 13, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
http://www.chembio.uoguelph.ca/educmat/atomdata/bindener/elecbind.htm (http://www.chembio.uoguelph.ca/educmat/atomdata/bindener/elecbind.htm)

Binding Energies of Electrons
in Atoms from H (Z=1) to Lw (Z=103)

An electron, which is negatively charged, is attracted to the nucleus of an atom because of the positive charge that is there. The amount of energy that is required to be given to the electron to pull it away from this attractive (Coulombic) force is called the binding energy. For the hydrogen atom, this is an exactly solvable problem (both at the non-relativistic level -the Schršdinger equation- and at the relativistic level -the Dirac equation). However, when more than one electron is present in orbit around a nucleus one most further consider the electrostatic repulsion which arises between the electrons. Because of this additional repulsion, the energy one needs to give a certain electron to remove it from the nucleus is now less than would be needed otherwise. This electron-electron repulsion makes the problem unsolvable analytically. However, many effective and accurate numerical methods have been developed to calculate the binding energies including these additional terms.

--o0o--

http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/binding_energy/binding_energy.html (http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/binding_energy/binding_energy.html)


Binding Energy


The key concept behind the release of energy in fusion (and fission) reactions is binding energy. Binding energy is the energy that is lost when a nucleus is created from protons and neutrons. If you added up the total mass of the nucleons (protons and neutrons) that compose an atom, you would notice that this sum is less than the actual mass of the atom. This missing mass, called the mass defect, is a measure of the atom's binding energy. It is released during the formation of a nucleus from the composing nucleons. This energy would have to be put back into the nucleus in order to decompose it into its individual nucleons. The greater the binding energy per nucleon in the atom, the greater the atom's stability. To calculate the binding energy of a nucleus, all you have to do is sum the mass of the individual nucleons, and then subtract the mass of the atom itself. The mass leftover is then converted into its energy equivalent. The relation between mass and energy is shown in Einstein's famous equation E = mc2. However, we will just multiply the mass by a conversion factor to have the units of energy in millions of electron volts (MeV), a standard unit of energy in nuclear physics. Therefore, the equation for binding energy that you can use later is:


Eb = (Z Ã? mH + N Ã? mn - misotope) Ã? 931.5 MeV/amu
 

--o0o--

http://authors.library.caltech.edu/5204/ (http://authors.library.caltech.edu/5204/)

--o0o--

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 13, 2012, 10:53:14 PM
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=atoms-of-space-and-time (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=atoms-of-space-and-time)

http://straddle3.net/context/03/en/2003_02_26.html (http://straddle3.net/context/03/en/2003_02_26.html)

http://www.phys.lsu.edu/faculty/pullin/sciam.pdf (http://www.phys.lsu.edu/faculty/pullin/sciam.pdf)

So, you see...our Universe might be a collaboration of tiny particles...

Each with it's own destiny...something to think about... :D

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 13, 2012, 11:05:19 PM
If time is a constant in the Universe, what we really do not know, why might it not be another way of travelling through the Universe? We really do not know. Time as we know it, ages all physical matter (and ourselves) here on this planet, but can time also have a side to it, that only occurs outside our safe environment here on the Earth? How does time work when in space? Light travels at app. 300.000 kilometers a second, as we have measured it here, in our environment. How can we be sure that time follows light speed in space? What if time is "relative", and changes when a black hole is in it's way? What actually happens to time? Is it the same  thing that happens to light when it can't escape a black hole? We sure don't know, but something suggests that time might be relative too, just as light bends, time might bend too, in the great Cosmos.

Just another mindbender,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on April 14, 2012, 11:57:47 PM
I would think that time still needs to exist within a black hole or the gravity would not work right and the black hole would not work like it is supposed to. If time inside the black hole slows to nearly nothing then the gravity of the black hole would increase, at least locally, but then what would that do to any definition for time? My best guess is that time is not changed or modified, I think Relativity is wrong on that. All good observations of time slowing down have been on the quantum level, not the cosmological level.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 15, 2012, 06:31:16 PM
majicbar, it's just that NASA has detected a diversion in time, between the time recorded in space, and the time here on Earth...

I'll later post the discovery, I thank you for your input! It's valuable insight!

In the mean time, please take a look at this:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/ (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/)

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/universe/blackhole_surfing.html (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/universe/blackhole_surfing.html)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on April 16, 2012, 12:54:02 AM
The GPS system is always adjusted to account for the changes in time based on general relativity.  This is known for ages now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime)

......The satellite clocks are moving at 14,000 km/hr in orbits that circle the Earth twice per day, much faster than clocks on the surface of the Earth, and Einstein's theory of special relativity says that rapidly moving clocks tick more slowly, by about seven microseconds (millionths of a second) per day.

Also, the orbiting clocks are 20,000 km above the Earth, and experience gravity that is four times weaker than that on the ground. Einstein's general relativity theory says that gravity curves space and time, resulting in a tendency for the orbiting clocks to tick slightly faster, by about 45 microseconds per day. The net result is that time on a GPS satellite clock advances faster than a clock on the ground by about 38 microseconds per day.



Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on April 16, 2012, 08:16:20 AM
This is a good film explaining spacetime.

Time Trip - BBC Horizon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfEnyxxSu4c#)
Everyone experiences time differently  ;D
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on April 17, 2012, 02:56:01 AM
"Bela Lugosi is Dead" one of my favorites, no.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on April 17, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
http://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists-abolish-fourth-dimension-space.html (http://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists-abolish-fourth-dimension-space.html)

(Phys.org) -- Philosophers have debated the nature of time long before Einstein and modern physics. But in the 106 years since Einstein, the prevailing view in physics has been that time serves as the fourth dimension of space, an arena represented mathematically as 4D Minkowski spacetime. However, some scientists, including Amrit Sorli and Davide Fiscaletti, founders of the Space Life Institute in Slovenia, argue that time exists completely independent from space. In a new study, Sorli and Fiscaletti have shown that two phenomena of special relativity - time dilation and length contraction - can be better described within the framework of a 3D space with time as the quantity used to measure change (i.e., photon motion) in this space.

Comment...The science of "time" may be far more complex than we think, while we might see quantum time change relative to motion, actual time might operate entirely differently. So what we take as clocks may in fact not actually be showing real time, but allusions to real time, and we have to take efforts to adjust, like with the GPS to bring things back together and make them usable.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 17, 2012, 06:07:01 PM
Brilliant! Thank you majicbar!  :)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 20, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
A good friend of mine is concerned that matter might be in question of being real, and I understand this question very well, as what is "matter" really? Atoms in binding states? Or solids? And what is "solids"? If all matter consist of atoms, with electrons spinning around them, why is it that we see all this as solids?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid)

http://www.uccs.edu/~tchriste/courses/PES100/100lectures/atoms.html (http://www.uccs.edu/~tchriste/courses/PES100/100lectures/atoms.html)

http://people.virginia.edu/~lz2n/mse209/Chapter3.pdf (http://people.virginia.edu/~lz2n/mse209/Chapter3.pdf)

Just so that there's no misunderstanding, solids consitst of tiny parts...just to make this theory genuine.

EVS

PS: Feel free to challenge this...any opinion is welcomed!  ;)


Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on April 21, 2012, 12:43:38 AM
Well actually I will up it a notch and say matter is waves according to scientific discoveries, not theories. 

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/quantumzone/debroglie.html (http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/quantumzone/debroglie.html)

Also the Bit for It theory is gaining ground:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 21, 2012, 02:51:29 AM
Very insightful knowlegde there, tomi! And a very good informative video! Thanks!

I hope you continue to tribute, it's very much appreciated!!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 16, 2012, 12:07:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technetium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technetium)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alloys#Alloys_of_gold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alloys#Alloys_of_gold)

http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/radionuclides/technetium.html (http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/radionuclides/technetium.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elements_by_atomic_number (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elements_by_atomic_number)

Just an addition,
EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 21, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101118141541.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101118141541.htm)

Exerpt:
Non-locality determines how well two distant parties can coordinate their actions without sending each other information. Physicists believe that even in quantum mechanics, information cannot travel faster than light. Nevertheless, it turns out that quantum mechanics allows two parties to coordinate much better than would be possible under the laws of classical physics. In fact, their actions can be coordinated in a way that almost seems as if they had been able to talk. Einstein famously referred to this phenomenon as "spooky action at a distance."

However, quantum non-locality could be even spookier than it actually is. It's possible to have theories which allow distant parties to coordinate their actions much better than nature allows, while still not allowing information to travel faster than light. Nature could be weirder, and yet it isn't -- quantum theory appears to impose an additional limit on the weirdness.

"Quantum theory is pretty weird, but it isn't as weird as it could be. We really have to ask ourselves, why is quantum mechanics this limited? Why doesn't nature allow even stronger non-locality?" Oppenheim says.
 
The surprising result by Wehner and Oppenheim is that the uncertainty principle provides an answer. Two parties can only coordinate their actions better if they break the uncertainty principle, which imposes a strict bound on how strong non-locality can be.


EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on June 22, 2012, 02:58:07 AM
I think your report could use a spookier ending..  :) 

(How do particles that are 17kilometers away remain connected?)

Quantum nonlocality is the phenomenon by which measurements made at a microscopic level necessarily refute one or more notions (often referred to as local realism) that are regarded as intuitively true in classical mechanics. Rigorously, quantum nonlocality refers to quantum mechanical predictions of many-system measurement correlations that cannot be simulated by any local hidden variable theory. Many entangled quantum states produce such correlations when measured, as demonstrated by Bell's theorem.

Entanglement, non-locality and hidden variables 
There is much confusion about the meaning of entanglement, non-locality and hidden variables and how they relate to each other. As described above, entanglement is an experimentally verified and accepted property of nature. Non-locality and hidden variables are two proposed mechanisms that enable the effects of entanglement.



Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on June 24, 2012, 01:13:32 AM
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BTW the L E V I A T H A N Blog is now called a fraudulent site, if you believe that don't come, but WE will continue.  We know the who and why of this and will spend no time in any response to it.  Remember if you believe it, then stay away and visit other places that have been recently mentioned to us in a PM by a member of this forum.  This mentioning was the clue to the attack and we could not care less.  Does one believe that such is not planned for, well think again.  We have dealt with some of the most vicious posters on the web and never made a complaint because they were as people (?) not worth the effort.  Now take a good look at the WARNING from norton and abide by it.  The story goes on.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on June 24, 2012, 05:16:15 PM
ENOUGH SAID?
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: thelmadonna on June 24, 2012, 05:40:58 PM
No! Go on say more.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on June 24, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/icarus99_photo/Wolffire2.jpg)
THE BLOG WARNING HAS BEEN REMOVED, OTHERS ARE STILL IN FORCE.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 26, 2012, 11:43:02 PM
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/icarus99_photo/Wolffire2.jpg)
THE BLOG WARNING HAS BEEN REMOVED, OTHERS ARE STILL IN FORCE.
L E V I A T H A N

Leviathan, they are afraid of you, you present the opposite thinking...hence the attack on your blog!

Please see this as an open inquiry to what you stand for, and most here believe..the true workings of a "California Drone" ...

Ask LMH, she also has a hard time not to believe, just as many others here...sure, no evidence has come forward..

I am very dissapointed in the fellow researchers that haven't dug deep enough to see that this case is far from resolved!

You have my support in this, and sure, come forward with evidence that this "Drone Case" never happened..who really knows,
the "know-it-alls" or real scientists asking?

You decide,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 03, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
http://literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5966-4855E.pdf (http://literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5966-4855E.pdf)

The most general approach to evaluating the time domain response
of any electromagnetic system is to solve Maxwellâ??s equations in the
time domain. Such a procedure would take into account all the
effects of the system geometry and electrical properties, including
transmission line effects. However, this would be rather involved for
even a simple connector and even more complicated for a structure
such as a multilayer high-speed backplane. For this reason, various
test and measurement methods have been used to assist the
electrical engineer in analyzing signal integrity.
The most common method for evaluating a transmission line and its
load has traditionally involved applying a sine wave to a system and
measuring waves resulting from discontinuities on the line. From
these measurements, the standing wave ratio (σ) is calculated and
used as a figure of merit for the transmission system. When the
system includes several discontinuities, however, the standing wave
ratio (SWR) measurement fails to isolate them. In addition, when
the broadband quality of a transmission system is to be determined,
SWR measurements must be made at many frequencies. This method
soon becomes very time consuming and tedious.
Another common instrument for evaluating a transmission line is the
network analyzer. In this case, a signal generator produces a sinusoid
whose frequency is swept to stimulate the device under test (DUT).
The network analyzer measures the reflected and transmitted signals
from the DUT. The reflected waveform can be displayed in various
formats, including SWR and reflection coefficient. An equivalent TDR
format can be displayed only if the network analyzer is equipped
with the proper software to perform an Inverse Fast Fourier
Transform (IFFT). This method works well if the user is comfortable
working with s-parameters in the frequency domain. However, if
the user is not familiar with these microwave-oriented tools, the
learning curve is quite steep. Furthermore, most digital designers
prefer working in the time domain with logic analyzers and
high-speed oscilloscopes.
When compared to other measurement techniques, time domain
reflectometry provides a more intuitive and direct look at the DUTâ??s
characteristics. Using a step generator and an oscilloscope, a fast
edge is launched into the transmission line under investigation.
The incident and reflected voltage waves are monitored by the
oscilloscope at a particular point on the line.

Soil Water Content with Time Domain Reflectometry (TDR) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVDh60WGmik#)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 03, 2012, 01:29:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-domain_reflectometry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-domain_reflectometry)


(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/EVS4u/220px-Partial_transmittance.gif)

Time-domain reflectometry or TDR is a measurement technique used to determine the characteristics of electrical lines by observing reflected waveforms.[1] Time-domain transmissometry (TDT) is an analogous technique that measures the transmitted (rather than reflected) impulse. Together, they provide a powerful means of analysing electrical or optical transmission media such as coaxial cables and optical fibers.
 
Variations of TDR exist. For example, spread-spectrum time-domain reflectometry (SSTDR) is used to detect intermittent faults in complex and high-noise systems such as aircraft wiring.[2] Coherent optical time domain reflectometry (COTDR) is another variant, used in optical systems, in which the returned signal is mixed with a local oscillator and then filtered to reduce noise.[3]
 
The amplitude of the reflected signal can be determined from the impedance of the discontinuity. The distance to the reflecting impedance can also be determined from the time that a pulse takes to return. The limitation of this method is the minimum system rise time. The total rise time consists of the combined rise time of the driving pulse and that of the oscilloscope that monitors the reflections.

Curtesy of Onthefence
EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on July 03, 2012, 03:09:55 AM
In our quality control department we would use the TDR to verify that the internal circuits were of the correct dimensions, we would occasionally find a printed circuit board that would fail the TDR, but still check out when measured in cross section. I'd rather trust the TDR than the visual inspection in our lab. The NAVY caught us falsifying tests and we lost our DOD contracts for 6 months. They let us back in the game, but I think we still were cheating somehow.

Every morning my pacemaker makes a measurement of the ICD's leads TDR and checks to be sure that if needed the leads will perform as required. It is nice to know how really good the designers are to check it's performance before it is needed.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 03, 2012, 07:40:03 AM
As TDR might relate to the CARET case, Isaac says:
  "They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field."
and
  "The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional."

So, we have something whose shape is related to a desired effect on a field.

A field can easily can contain waves as in the case of the field produced around a radio transmitter.

So, with the TDR, we have a real world example of a shape (length of wire) being used to affect a field (signal) .

In the case of the LAP, such a wave/field, like a radio wave, applied to a complex conductive surface will also create a series of internal reflections whose values may resonate to add or subtract or perform other mathematical functions depending on the shape of the conductor.

By slightly altering the source signal generated (the field), you could activate different shape patterns. In a way, you have a parallel processing computer whose function can be altered by applying a coded signal in the form of a field.

You may recall from viewing images of the Big Basin drone, these shapes are not simply printed with one colour. It is possible that the shapes and letters are printed with various conductors and insulators.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 03, 2012, 08:06:06 AM
There is some new hype being generated about the possible discovery of the Higgs Boson subatomic particle:
Higgs boson buzz hits new high (http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/29/12488155-higgs-boson-buzz-hits-new-high)

Others have brought up the similarity of this image to parts of the LAP in the past. From the above article is an image of proton-on-proton collision in the LHC:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/onthefence55/collision.jpg)

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 05, 2012, 01:20:28 AM
To add:

Sure, the similarity between the LHC and the LAP now seems to match!

The LAP can now be known as a 2D image of similar 3D images that show what happens at CERN.

3D pictures, as shown by "onthefence" origin of the LHC printouts show that the LAP shows particle
collisions, and therefor sure isn't a work of "photoshop"!

However, the workings of the LAP is still a mystery, but now it is almost certain that it is similar to readouts of a particle collider, which again says that this all is coming very close to the truth.

If a "hoaxer" invented this, he would most likely be a scientist.

This shows new evidence.

The similarities of the LAP and the general way to show the deciphering of a particle event is very much the same.

---o0o---

The Higgs boson is found! It's in the mainstream news right now!

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/ (http://public.web.cern.ch/public/)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/9374788/Higgs-Boson-announcement-from-Cern-as-it-happened.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/9374788/Higgs-Boson-announcement-from-Cern-as-it-happened.html)

(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/EVS4u/CMS-higgs-2.png)

Cheers,
EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 05, 2012, 01:39:17 PM
Some of these possibilities were discussed a while ago here:

With many links to similar images:
  http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=259.msg6038#msg6038 (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=259.msg6038#msg6038)

Discussion of Higgs Boson last year:
  http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=176.msg8142#msg8142 (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=176.msg8142#msg8142)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 05, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
From the posting by iamiamiam (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=259.msg6038#msg6038) in 2009:
  "...hydrogen wavefunction"

You may find these similarities interesting:

Hydrogen wavefunction visualization
http://www.micalex.com/Definitions/Hydrogen-Wave-Function-Probabilty-Density.htm (http://www.micalex.com/Definitions/Hydrogen-Wave-Function-Probabilty-Density.htm)
(http://www.micalex.com/Definitions/Hydrogen-Wave-Function-Probability-Density-Plots.jpg)
Compared to these CARET reported symbols:
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/onthefence55/particle_symbols.jpg)

More details on wavefunctions can be found here:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavefunction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavefunction)

Is it possible that the LAP symbols could be a schematic representation of atoms?


Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on July 05, 2012, 10:35:55 PM
A remarkable find. I must have missed this in 2009?  Good you remembered it.   It doesn't show anything conclusive but it is an indication that at the least there was a deep insight into this and the design was drawn from it or else it is a major coincidence.  But it is hard to dispute the similarity.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on July 06, 2012, 11:18:05 AM
Wouldn't the characters that are shown in the example be a means of mediating with wave function then?  Especially if they are at the front and end of the other characters.  This illustration OTF I believe is a piece of the puzzle of what the LAP is supposed to be.  I'm talking about what it is supposed to represent even if it is not genuine as described by Isaac. 
At least this has a pretty good probability of being a clue to the function of what the characters on the LAP are supposed to do and to what.
Now we can assume that it is something to do with field mediation?
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on July 07, 2012, 03:13:59 AM
Quote
Leviathan, they are afraid of you, you present the opposite thinking...hence the attack on your blog!
Please see this as an open inquiry to what you stand for
I stand for a truth that is not of necessity ours, but instead theirs.  The average "UFO site" is not for truth but for ego and a small income,  It has no useful reason to exist and will bring nothing new to the table.  These site consist of types fun to play with and maneuver, the truth would be death to their reality and personal paradigm.  They are far from the truth and destined to stay there.  The humor they have is easily pushed into ridicule and they fall father.  This is very good and benefits those who really need to know.  Preparation requires knowledge and the preparation I refer to will be a useful tool in what is to come.  If any are afraid of images, then surely they would be fearful of the real view and well they should.  The Higgs has been found before and never lost by some.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 07, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
Quote
Leviathan, they are afraid of you, you present the opposite thinking...hence the attack on your blog!
Please see this as an open inquiry to what you stand for
I stand for a truth that is not of necessity ours, but instead theirs.  The average "UFO site" is not for truth but for ego and a small income,  It has no useful reason to exist and will bring nothing new to the table.  These site consist of types fun to play with and maneuver, the truth would be death to their reality and personal paradigm.  They are far from the truth and destined to stay there.  The humor they have is easily pushed into ridicule and they fall father.  This is very good and benefits those who really need to know.  Preparation requires knowledge and the preparation I refer to will be a useful tool in what is to come.  If any are afraid of images, then surely they would be fearful of the real view and well they should.  The Higgs has been found before and never lost by some.
L E V I A T H A N

The truth is a fragile entity, but this new observations sure shows that what we all have thought possible now might be within reach. Sure, some still think of this as a hoax, I for one do not anymore.

This is close to what we call "evidence" that the LAP is what "Isaac" told us...

Please come forward if you think I'm wrong, it doesn't take a Phd to figure these similarities out..

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on July 07, 2012, 07:29:59 PM
But I don't see how these representations prove anything except that they could be representations?
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 07, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
But I don't see how these representations prove anything except that they could be representations?

I didn't say prove, but if this was a hoaxer's idea, he/she sure have gone a long way to do this, as it
is clear that he/she have at least some insider knowledge to create something like the LAP.

Once we know how to read the LAP as readout of atomic processes, I'm sure we'll find out if this is genuine or not.

The idea of connecting with alien technology might just be a way of using the only thing that is persistant in the universe, and
that might be the workings of the very smallest building blocks, the workings of the atom. Hence the universal language, maybe
what is written on the drones...

"Linguistic Analysis Primer" (LAP) might suggest this universal language, such as atomic understanding, which maybe IS the way of
interstellar/interdimensional communication? You tell me?

There sure has been much talk about this, but nothing conclusive has come forward to this day, if you ask me. Please elaborate
your thoughts, it would be interesting to know if you have conclusive ideas to bring forth?

Thank you for your reply,
EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on July 08, 2012, 11:10:37 AM
It appears that the ilustrated example of the hydrogen atom wave probability is from;

The radial solutions of the Schrödinger equation of the hydrogen atom.

See this page:  http://users.aber.ac.uk/ruw/teach/237/shape.php (http://users.aber.ac.uk/ruw/teach/237/shape.php)

So.. it could be that someone was using Schrodingers equation examples as values in the LAP character set.  Or else it is pure coincidence it shows up in a corresponding example of nature in the LAP.  Each person's subjective opinion I suppose.

But the character set positions in the LAP are also set as operators similiar to a programming language called Brainf*ck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck)

http://tinyurl.com/4f6mt (http://tinyurl.com/4f6mt)

This was suggested to me by someone, I'm not all that familiar with programming languages  :) 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 08, 2012, 04:07:37 PM
But the character set positions in the LAP are also set as operators similiar to a programming language called Brainf*ck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck)

http://tinyurl.com/4f6mt (http://tinyurl.com/4f6mt)

This was suggested to me by someone, I'm not all that familiar with programming languages  :)
Your friend's suggestion uses only eight language commands (which was chosen for minimal compiler size) compared to the LAP which uses about 54. Maybe by the standards of Extraterrestrials, 54 is minimal ;)

The "bracket style" characters in BF are unique instructions which do not have to be, and seldom are matched. In the LAP, the "bracket" and "start/end" characters are often matched pairs which implies a nested parenthesis model quite often used in language, mathematics, and programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket). One use for brackets is to contain more detailed information/functionality.

Here is a typical nested parenthesis set from the LAP diagram:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/onthefence55/brackets.jpg)

Maybe your friend can elaborate on his suggestion.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on July 08, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
Maybe your friend can elaborate on his suggestion.

I'm not sure I'd be better off asking for elaboration tbh   ;)
 
Is it more that it is called an esoteric type of programming rather than a tanglible?  I think the characters I was using as a reference were the ones at the beginning and end as operators and they almost appear to be in a fairly limited number to what we are seeing in the examples of the placement notation for the hydrogen atoms.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: tomi on July 08, 2012, 05:48:25 PM
Let me take full responsibility for both these suggestions as EVS wanted opinions.   

I'm seeing strong indications of the similiarity of the atom wave notations in the operating characters of the LAP.  For those who want to see this as an indication it can serve as a notational operater for wave function of some unknown field it can be so.
But it can also be a creation and it seemed to me that this form of esoteric language syntax could have been used.  And since I know ziltch about programming... it's the way I look at this case, taking this on board and bringing it up.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: majicbar on July 08, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
As I see it the waveforms make sense as they are set by quantum mechanics and I figure the drone would be using some form of quantum computer, which seems to logical that the computer would use these waveforms in its language. Our normal computers use bits of 0 and 1, on and off, which requires long strings of instructions in machine language. That would be highly simplified if one can use at least 8 bits in a "bit" rather than only 2 as in binary, this would allow much faster computing. Think of it like in our human languages, words are much faster than having to spell out every letter in the word first.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on July 09, 2012, 04:12:45 PM
Researchers who have taken a saw and cut into the various parts of UFO's and I assume the Drones 'control' panels,  have found this:  The "brain" of these crafts appear to be a solid made of some  composite material or alloy.   There are no wires, printed computer panels or any parts.   There is just a solid piece of 'something' that uses these symbols on the surface to activate the solid.   

It's like opening up your PC and finding nothing inside but a solid piece of material with 'lettering' on the outside.  No motherboard, no hard drive, no microchips,  no fans....nothing but a solid block of something.

Somehow I feel we have a long way to go before we achieve this degree of sophistication.

Douglas
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on July 09, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
I think I said this a long time ago.  This is even reported in ancient Egypt as to how certain things worked.  If you are designing on the quantum level (which they are) it would not only appear solid, but to us it would be as solid as anything we know.  These are not just better machines, but magic that shapes its appearance to what we can to some degree conceive.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 09, 2012, 10:12:03 PM

Here's some interesting links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson)

http://www.zmescience.com/research/higgs-boson-god-particle-30082011/ (http://www.zmescience.com/research/higgs-boson-god-particle-30082011/)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18702455 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18702455)

http://science.howstuffworks.com/higgs-boson.htm (http://science.howstuffworks.com/higgs-boson.htm)


(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6562/higgsbosonexist.gif)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 17, 2012, 03:47:56 PM
Ted passed me this link from a recent Coast to Coast AM show that you may be interested in listening to:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/16 (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/16)

Higgs Boson & Ancient Texts/ Inverted Spirituality
In the first half, authority on the teachings of ancient mystics, Peter Canova, talked about how the recent detection of the previously theoretical Higgs Boson particle bears similarity to how thousands of years ago, mystics described creation and the origin of matter. Physicists, he noted, suggest that as particles pass through the invisible 'Higgs Field' they slow down and acquire mass, which parallels the ancient Greeks' notion of the ether, a penetrating non-material field that filled the universe.


Coast To Coast AM - Higgs Boson & Ancient Texts/Inverted Spirituality - 07-16-2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn9xs-qgxbE#)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on July 18, 2012, 02:31:54 AM
IT IS THE ETHER.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 18, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
Ted passed me this link from a recent Coast to Coast AM show that you may be interested in listening to:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/16 (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/07/16)

Higgs Boson & Ancient Texts/ Inverted Spirituality
In the first half, authority on the teachings of ancient mystics, Peter Canova, talked about how the recent detection of the previously theoretical Higgs Boson particle bears similarity to how thousands of years ago, mystics described creation and the origin of matter. Physicists, he noted, suggest that as particles pass through the invisible 'Higgs Field' they slow down and acquire mass, which parallels the ancient Greeks' notion of the ether, a penetrating non-material field that filled the universe.


Coast To Coast AM - Higgs Boson & Ancient Texts/Inverted Spirituality - 07-16-2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn9xs-qgxbE#)

Excellent post! I'll dig deeper into this, for sure! Thanks!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on July 25, 2012, 08:13:08 PM
I found the following short interview about the Higgs with physicist Dr. Giovanni Organtini to be quite interesting and informative:

Giovanni Organtini Answers About the Higgs and LHC
http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/07/24/1752238/interviews-giovanni-organtini-answers-about-the-higgs-and-lhc (http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/07/24/1752238/interviews-giovanni-organtini-answers-about-the-higgs-and-lhc)

From the interview:
In fact the Higgs boson provides inertial mass to particles. As far as we know inertial mass is something fundamentally different with respect to the gravitational mass: the first is responsible for inertia; the second is the source of the gravitational field. We have no idea about why the two masses are numerically equal. We do not believe in coincidences. There must be a reason for that, but we could not yet figure out it.

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on August 31, 2012, 11:15:49 PM
The hunt for the Higgs Particle in quantum mechanics - Brian Cox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeH94ikMJA8#)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model)

Some explanation to all the questions asked  :D

For the interested forum, look to the LAP (Linguistic Analysis Primer) provided by "Isaac" and take a further look at it, it just might  be a form of particle physics that we yet have to discover? You tell me? It sure looks familiar to me, but since we haven't discovered as much today, it might be in our future to understand the LAP to it's fullests length. It might harbour much more information that we ever dreamed of existed!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 13, 2012, 09:20:37 PM
From Wired.com:

 http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/02/sa-transistor/ (http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/02/sa-transistor/)

Additional links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linearizability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linearizability)

http://www.countdown.org/end_articles/tec_atomic_computers.htm (http://www.countdown.org/end_articles/tec_atomic_computers.htm)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081222113532.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081222113532.htm)

http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/wwwr_thinkresearch.nsf/pages/20070830_atomic.html (http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/wwwr_thinkresearch.nsf/pages/20070830_atomic.html)

--o0o--
The interesting part begins at 0.30.00

Quantum Computing and the Limits of the Efficiently Computable - 2011 Buhl Lecture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bLXHvH9s1A#ws)


Michio Kaku: How to Program a Quantum Computer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUWfod_8JsM#ws)

Complex computing might not be limited to Earth bound science..think about the solid state computing of the Drones?

Enjoy!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 18, 2012, 10:00:29 PM
Sure we all want all reproduced in a laboratory, but when science reaches the full understanding
of the universal building blocks, sure some "paranormal" issues will intertwine, don't you think..

Somehow, all we know as particles and patterns of such, might relate to a universal code..

That is why we, you and I, need to follow this developement...as the scientific discoveries migth
have a side effect...somehow it might help proving the states of uncertainty that also are present in
"the paranormal world"!

Once we establish that the Universe holds unseen charts, we sure are very close to establish why
we as humans might harbour "special" visions, or predictable visions..as it might be a part of our
surroundings..nevertheless! Chew a bit on this..

Sure, particle physics is one thing, but the workings of the Universe might be another...!

If we take the model of two atoms knowing eachothers electrons state, even if undisclosed distance
apart, why not think it all adds up, we are all made of the same material, namely matter! So, we
are all a "mirror" of every single atom in our body...the other part is doing the same as we do, in another
part of this Universe? Sure, the way of exploring the tiny things might be the way of answering the very
big question, - who are we? We consist of an infinate number of particles, but who's to say that is what
we are? Do you know? I guess not! But the more we learn, and it cannot all be proven in a laboratory,
we are the "children" of the atom. That for sure is established.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 24, 2012, 10:55:59 PM
Something tells me, that true believers fight, even if the postulates are rising high for the opposite way
of thinking, the conservative inapt way - open your greatests resource, your free will to think in lanes
that is considered our greatests resource, your free will to think in lanes
that is considered "inappropriate" by many, and the reward will come, it sure will! Sometimes the truth
is overwhelming, but nevertheless it's the real and genuine truth, that no one can replicate in a laboratory!

This only happens when we understand the true workings of our inner selves, as when we open not
only the chemistry of our bodies, but also the atomic workings of our body. Somehow we know, but to
come this close to understanding how it all works is like finding our "God" which we then have in common
with all beliefs and all religion worldwide. This may seem scary, but the true answer lies in the discovery
of how all matter is made, and how we all are a part of evolution, made possible by the single atom,
which again harbours much more than what is found in science at this time and day. Sure, the Universe has secrets
that yet has to be discovered, but we as humans sure are coming close to explaining how all this came by.
If it coincidently happens in the year 2012, is left for you to imagine.

Just my thoughts, now I really have gone wild, you say - or have I?

EVS

PS: Knowledge like this was what made "God" throw out Adam and Eve from The Garden of Eden - do we dare to challenge
this? If we trust we must rely on that everything is created and made possible for Us all to explore, as we all are rejects from
the same garden, the answer lies in what we find out about this world, and how it all is working, that was the question asked
if we choose to believe in creation. Once established how (and especially why) we are here, we might reach the end of the long line
of searching that all thinking humanity has ever asked for. Question is, are we prepared for, and do we really need that? What
to look for, if we know it all? I sure don't know. But the research might just end at some point, have you considered that?
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 04, 2012, 09:43:51 AM
NASA Scientist Says Warp Drive is Doable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwZt1Yh4-1U#ws)

http://www.space.com/6649-star-trek-warp-drive-impossible.html (http://www.space.com/6649-star-trek-warp-drive-impossible.html)

My comment: Look how the warp drive has a ring similar to the drones to
obtain speed up to 10 times the speed of light - if this is true, it sure
opens up the discussion whether or not the drones are interdimensional or
more conventional crafts, allthough travelling in an unusual way yet to be discovered.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 04, 2012, 09:58:29 AM
http://www.robertlanzabiocentrism.com/is-death-an-illusion-evidence-suggests-death-isnt-the-end/ (http://www.robertlanzabiocentrism.com/is-death-an-illusion-evidence-suggests-death-isnt-the-end/)

Is Death An Illusion? Evidence Suggests Death Isnâ??t the End

After the death of his old friend, Albert Einstein said â??Now Besso has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us â?¦ know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.â?

New evidence continues to suggest that Einstein was right â?? death is an illusion.

Our classical way of thinking is based on the belief that the world has an objective observer-independent existence. But a long list of experiments shows just the opposite. We think life is just the activity of carbon and an admixture of molecules â?? we live awhile and then rot into the ground.

We believe in death because weâ??ve been taught we die. Also, of course, because we associate ourselves with our body and we know bodies die. End of story. But biocentrism â?? a new theory of everything â?? tells us death may not be the terminal event we think. Amazingly, if you add life and consciousness to the equation, you can explain some of the biggest puzzles of science. For instance, it becomes clear why space and time â?? and even the properties of matter itself â?? depend on the observer. It also becomes clear why the laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be exquisitely fine-tuned for the existence of life.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 11, 2012, 12:37:37 AM
Exclusive to the readers of VonStern Magazine here at the Drone Research Team:

http://uvs-model.com/index.htm (http://uvs-model.com/index.htm)

http://uvs-model.com/WFE%20on%20phenomenon%20of%20expanding%20Universe.htm (http://uvs-model.com/WFE%20on%20phenomenon%20of%20expanding%20Universe.htm)

http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/1795-accelerating-universe-dark-energy-illusion.html (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/1795-accelerating-universe-dark-energy-illusion.html)

http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/acosmexp.html (http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/acosmexp.html)

http://sciencefocus.com/forum/where-is-the-visible-universe-t2804.html (http://sciencefocus.com/forum/where-is-the-visible-universe-t2804.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe)

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/reality-a-mere-illusion-part-2-26748.html (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/reality-a-mere-illusion-part-2-26748.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_principle)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set)

My comment: The Universe seems to inhabit any workings of a common equation.

Shape, size and matter has a common initiation, only we as humans seek this.....
Something is true in our Universe, and that is time and speed, AND place!

Once we work with these known parameters, we find that space as we know it will bend as we observe it...once observed, it cooperates as spoken..which again says, the more we observe, the more space expands! Sure, the scientific evidence lies here in front of Us ..the two slit experiment..once observed, the particle changes...sure Our Universe changes as well..it takes a clear open mind to understand the possible holographic understanding here..

If we as humans believe there's a Universe outside our known territory, it's there. If we don't, it isn't there. Which side are you on? This sure gives you space to look into your self!

Sure the stars have always been there, but if it wasn't for the observer and the decendants...were they really there? Do we really know...Illusions are very hard to explain...

Just another enigma to discuss..

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on October 11, 2012, 10:58:21 PM
The L E V I A T H A N Group has decided to stop the use of the blog as a UFO info source. The Internet is just not a useful place for any type of rational research on this subject. It never will be due to the methods used by the sycophants that appear at every site devoted to any paranormal subject.
Be seeing you in time.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 18, 2012, 12:23:25 AM
Be seeing you in time, L E V I A T H A N! In the mean time stay with us for a few moments!

Some news about our Universe, old and new, for those who missed it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift)

http://creation.com/high-redshift-quasars-produce-more-big-bang-surprises (http://creation.com/high-redshift-quasars-produce-more-big-bang-surprises)

http://www.noao.edu/meetings/subaru/Session-6/Knox.pdf (http://www.noao.edu/meetings/subaru/Session-6/Knox.pdf)

http://www.asiaa.sinica.edu.tw/activity/_upload/colloquium_201202101315.pdf (http://www.asiaa.sinica.edu.tw/activity/_upload/colloquium_201202101315.pdf)

http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/galaxies/arp.html (http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/galaxies/arp.html)

http://www.astronomycafe.net/cosm/expan.html (http://www.astronomycafe.net/cosm/expan.html)

More to come...

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 18, 2012, 01:08:35 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind%E2%80%93body_problem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind%E2%80%93body_problem)

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/parallel-universe2.htm (http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/parallel-universe2.htm)

http://samvak.tripod.com/deco.html (http://samvak.tripod.com/deco.html)

http://fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/DiCarlo_Tony_DiCarlo_rev7.pdf (http://fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/DiCarlo_Tony_DiCarlo_rev7.pdf)

http://www.bottomlayer.com/bottom/argument/Argument4.html (http://www.bottomlayer.com/bottom/argument/Argument4.html)

http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/tp/10inttheories.htm (http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/tp/10inttheories.htm)

http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/ast123/lectures/lec17.html (http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/ast123/lectures/lec17.html)

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-manyworlds/ (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-manyworlds/)

http://linas.org/theory/quantum.html (http://linas.org/theory/quantum.html)

http://discovermagazine.com/2010/apr/01-back-from-the-future (http://discovermagazine.com/2010/apr/01-back-from-the-future)

----o0o----

http://atheistuniverse.net/group/science/forum/topics/quantum-measurements-leave-schrodinger-s-cat-alive (http://atheistuniverse.net/group/science/forum/topics/quantum-measurements-leave-schrodinger-s-cat-alive)

18:07 03 October 2012 by Lisa Grossman

Schrödinger's cat, the enduring icon of quantum mechanics, has been defied. By making constant but weak measurements of a quantum system, physicists have managed to probe a delicate quantum state without destroying it â?? the equivalent of taking a peek at Schrodinger's metaphorical cat without killing it. The result should make it easier to handle systems such as quantum computers that exploit the exotic properties of the quantum world.


(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/EVS4u/bcat.jpg)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on October 18, 2012, 02:22:59 AM
Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 1 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akgCb85PG-A#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 2 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzkGsdQu2k#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 3 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQQaSXUP_Jk#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 4 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWvhm1puBc#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 5 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtfJ26aZoqs#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 6 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoqgeInmStw#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 7 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5r7ACbj6hU#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 8 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un3FEpL7Ddk#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 9 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7-ZYAMFucc#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 10 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkziq5F6iZc#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 11 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=polDBDmsdaM#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 12 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9skTx7LvakU#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 13 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrpIAbFZucU#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 14 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzGxzTxyNc#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 15 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I06vO92TeuM#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 16 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN_KBTi2d1E#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 17 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG8en5X0z00#)

Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 18 of 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztoFAENU-7A#)


Final box in the 3 post set...and yes, I have exceeded the limit for embedding per page, once again..simply click the links..please!
Or, watch all parts embedded here: http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=QP&action=display&num=1350525613&start=0#1350525613 (http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=QP&action=display&num=1350525613&start=0#1350525613)

Certainty is a vail of ignorance, for those who are in disbelief of the simple yet complex workings of this
worlds pre-engagement of outlayed dispension of life itself. Life is a product, not a gift in itself. EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on November 19, 2012, 08:21:56 PM
UFO Filmed By News Crew In Denver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVAmxvdv1oQ#ws)

http://now.msn.com/ufo-filmed-by-denver-news-crew (http://now.msn.com/ufo-filmed-by-denver-news-crew)

News station confirms that UFO sighting is neither bird nor plane

Who doesn't love a UFO sighting on a slow news day? A Denver FOX31 news crew has confirmed a local man's report of unidentified flying objects regularly zipping around the sky. Like the man, the crew was able to capture on camera the mysterious objects. The Federal Aviation Administration and the North American Aerospace Defense Command both shrugged, saying they had no records or reports of such activity, so the station summoned an aviation expert, who was also stumped. "That is not an airplane. That is not a helicopter. Those are not birds. I canâ??t identify it," he said. But while he allowed that it might be some kind of debris, "as it fits the definition, it's an unidentified flying object." Cue the creepy music.


Could it be a drone playing with Us?

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 18, 2012, 11:22:33 PM
Is this the truth? You tell me?

Here's something for you all to consider:

http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/463 (http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/463) (please hit the back button of your browser to keep watching)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 19, 2012, 01:07:08 AM
Density - Sixty Symbols (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE2QFJIBrko#)

And what has this to do with the Drones, you might ask...it sure has if the density of computational source is compressed into actual processing matter, it certainly make sense! Please post your ideas here...

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 19, 2012, 01:59:01 AM
Complexity of matter:

http://www.shockphysics.org/ (http://www.shockphysics.org/)

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02745548?LI=true (http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02745548?LI=true)

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nl102661q (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nl102661q)

http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/index.jsp?prio_area=10 (http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/index.jsp?prio_area=10)

http://www.aps.anl.gov/Science/Future/Workshops/Nanomagnetism/Summaries/Fullerton.pdf (http://www.aps.anl.gov/Science/Future/Workshops/Nanomagnetism/Summaries/Fullerton.pdf)

Sure identifying the "Matter" that Isaac provided has some boundaries, this might help understanding complex density..as we still need to identify the probable nano material that the drones harbour...

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: onthefence on December 19, 2012, 03:59:25 AM
And what has this to do with the Drones, you might ask...it sure has if the density of computational source is compressed into actual processing matter, it certainly make sense! Please post your ideas here...

Thanks for that fantastic encompassing view of densities.

I can see that if matter was a little more intelligently compiled, rather than simple squishing, we might be able to construct very dense 3D computational structures.

The method of Vacuum deposition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_deposition) is one way to control the addition of atoms to material. If there was a way to quickly and easily control atoms layered on to a 2D plate, then vacuum deposition could be used to create a 3D computer circuit by multiple 2D layers.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 23, 2012, 03:22:18 AM
And what has this to do with the Drones, you might ask...it sure has if the density of computational source is compressed into actual processing matter, it certainly make sense! Please post your ideas here...

Thanks for that fantastic encompassing view of densities.

I can see that if matter was a little more intelligently compiled, rather than simple squishing, we might be able to construct very dense 3D computational structures.

The method of Vacuum deposition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_deposition) is one way to control the addition of atoms to material. If there was a way to quickly and easily control atoms layered on to a 2D plate, then vacuum deposition could be used to create a 3D computer circuit by multiple 2D layers.

Sure, the density of the matter "Isaac" describes has computational worth, but in a few years we are able to compromise this, as the NANO technology are storming forward, since molecules and atoms are the future building blocks that science are working on.. so "Isaac" might not have been wrong at all, only it might not have been alien technology all along, we might have known of these incredible uses of natural elements even back in his days..maybe disguised as "alien tech"....any comments are welcome, as we really can't be sure of the origin of complex density computation...

Some form of protecting knowledge might have been "disguised" at the 1980's..I ask anyone to reply to this, as it has great meaning to me in the further investigation of the drones, and please look as to if the whole thing was a scam, it might have been such, or simply the genuine truth - being excactly what it says in the Isaac testamony?
I'll leave it for you to judge, any contribution is highly appreciated!

Sure, it might be extraterrestrials intervening, but did it have to be?

EVS

PS: I wish you all a Merry Christmas, happy (C)Hannuka, and a happy New Year! 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 01, 2013, 12:44:29 AM
Sure we all believe in extraordinairy events..and the science behind it all..some scientists sometime forget
to say what they personally believe...we are only to believe what our senses and our common sense gives Us..

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_flyingobjects11.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_flyingobjects11.htm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_the_United_States)

Specifically:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_the_United_States#2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_the_United_States#2007)


Sure, this incident of "Isaac" has made it's place in the common world. If this is a hoax, how many other
information is? You decide, as the spectator is free to establish his/her own mind!

 Some say "hoax"..but is it? do we trust the sources we get our news from? Can we ever be sure of excatly that?

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 01, 2013, 02:54:05 AM
Strange things are happening around the world:

UFOTV® Best Evidence - Top 10 UFO Sightings - Feature Film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdbd6I9of4#ws)

Some might be hoaxes...and some not..who can really tell the truth?

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 17, 2013, 10:52:59 PM
Life After Death - Documentary


Life After Death - Documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxcd4lARJ0U#)

Additional information, radio broadcast:

http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13&prgDate=02-21-2013 (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13&prgDate=02-21-2013)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on February 18, 2013, 12:29:56 AM
After watching the video above, I sincerely suggest you read this paper:

http://lifeafterdeath.info/ (http://lifeafterdeath.info/)

Harinder S. Sandhu

exerpt:

∙ The molecules of our body are continually being replaced and our emotions, thoughts, and memories outlast them.  The memories are still there even after all the cells in the brain that were in place at the time the memory was formed have died off and been replaced.  Thus, this is a very indirect form of evidence showing how our consciousness transcends the body.


"The extreme skeptics of the paranormal have a tendency to refute the least credible of paranormal examples; they seldom try to take on the best evidence and if they do they do not give very credible alternative explanations.  To do the former, is easy, the latter, generally quite difficult.  They also unfairly (and unscientifically I might add) tend to group all of the paranormal together and reject it all.  Its not all or nothing and the same applies to the various evidence types for life after death.  For instance, mediums communicating with the dead could be true but this has no relation with astrology being true or not - the two are independent of one another but this gets lost on some of the extreme skeptics in their overall outlook."

/EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on February 22, 2013, 10:49:47 PM
Most of this, I have spoken of long ago. The drones are now placed in a category very useful. If anything of this kind ever happens again, It is now known how to deal with it. There are many things best not known to the public. UFOCB has been the greatest helper in this. The are a perfect tool to dismiss and debunk all that needs to be. I have learned their methods of sharing information that is supposed to be private to the poster and how their mods interact to promote practices that can be very advantages to my agenda. There is no way a UFO event can ever be proved.
L E V I A T H A N
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: algae on February 25, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
There is no way a UFO event can ever be proved.

Some of us on this Forum are trying to do exactly that. If you have FACTS showing we'll never succeed please tell us, without your usual mumbo-jumbo, and save us a lot of effort.
algae
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on March 02, 2013, 03:32:29 AM
The public is contitioned to accept the skeptic view. Its just that simple. The net is the premium medium for disseminating UFO info and the biased position is established. Now look up the term mumbo-jumbo and you may learn even more or just return to UFOCB.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on March 03, 2013, 03:37:23 AM
There is no way a UFO event can ever be proved.

Some of us on this Forum are trying to do exactly that. If you have FACTS showing we'll never succeed please tell us, without your usual mumbo-jumbo, and save us a lot of effort.
algae

We're now into very dicey territory...talking about 'proof'.   I believe many governments do have proof of UFO activity.  Do I have proof?  No but I have the next best thing.  A neighbor of mine who worked at Douglas Aircraft, Santa Monica, CA in the 1940s told me the following in the year 1998.    He was age 95 at the time.

When he worked at Douglas Aircraft, in the design Department, they were sent a Top Secret [in-house self-printed] booklet, from the Atomic Energy Commission [USA].   This 8X10 booklet contained glossy black and white photos of a crashed UFO, the occupants: both dead and alive and a photo of one occupant standing by an Army truck.  The location of the crash: Near Roswell, NM ~ 1947.

He said the designers and model builders were shocked by what they had seen...shaken actually.

They kept this booklet in a file cabinet safe in their Design and Model Office.  A few months later they received a letter from the AEC demanding that the booklet be returned to them immediately.

Too bad this was long before Xerox machines. 
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 04, 2013, 02:52:21 AM
Incidents like this sure tells us that not all that is given to us, newspapers and other media is not to be be trusted...but when there's a fire...you know..

I as a long since retired scentist, know that well kept secrets are best to be unknown...this is the first time I ever come forward this way, so believe it or don't..we really do not hold the truth in our hands...and so do no one,, ask Leviathan..working on models virtual and real as HPO, we never came close to identify the California Drones...but yet they excist..because we have photo's and a reliable story...who can really say this never happened? I can't and I suspect neither of you can? But if you have clues to this enigma, show your ideas!

No one knows, as it all comes down to mostly hearsay, and "you know what I know" and no real paper has shown the possibility of this (or other) cases to be right or wrong. Only the general way is to belittle those who cares - I say cares - for the unseen to be told..those who can't find in their minds NOT to see what lies in the fine line beyound the grey matter that harbours our human brain, have mastered a severe damage to what we call "our soul" or the consistancy of memory engulfed in the electrical windings that is making up our independant workings, as we all have diffrent aspects buried in our mind. This, the mind, is to all scientists an enigma, even today, go tell that to the "nay sayers"...they harbour it as well as you and I do..admitting to that is hard to do..but as we all come from one entity, we sure all harbour the same wit, some hides it better than others...but in the end, we all fit into the Universe just as all small particles, we just don't know it, not well enough to describe it when we live. Diversions is the Universal language, that's why we biggot the same and only truth..once we enter life, at birth - we are given "singularity". We are entities that can reason, able to conquer the world we live in, as no other mammals ever could, why make a mess of it by treating other fellow human beings as dirt...just because we differ the opinion? Sure - we are mammals - go figure out sceptics that say "mind over matter" don't excist? Sure, intelligent life is excactly that, that's why some are afraid of possible "interrogation" from foreign sources, UFO of the extraterrestrial kind comes in mind...sure we are all afraid, but if it leads to the understanding of our heritage, then it sure makes our way of life understandable, even the sceptics have a pass, as they haven't discovered what life really is..a hallucination!

Virtually, the world we live in might be a fantasy of Gods dream...do we really know..?? The Universe is set by laws of humans, Einstein, Archimedes and even Plato, wondering and pondering in explicit terms how everything came by, much as we today search for the excact same thing, using vast amounts of money on the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva..we search for the same thing..the origin of the Universe..and the origin of ourself! When do this stop, you ask? I tell you - when we find out how it came about..will we ever? I think not...but that is my take on the world we live in...but for sure, someday we know the true origin, and why time let something like the California Drones happen...then we for once will know we are not alone in this Universe, and som might even know this by now, but are we told? No, we still suspect our leaders to know, but they don't! Believe me, if they did - we were not here today. So look to the skies, a wise friend of mine said, see if the UFO's come close...if not the dream sure benefits Us all.

We are in origin all parts of the same mass, the very same that gave us life, that gave life to the now extinct species that once ruled this planet. Someday we might be overtaken, by supiriour species, just as the workings of our planet tells, we might not be "the only ones" that conquer this planet, we might be a simple pawn in the evolvement of this planet...do we dare thinking this thought? So many species have died and become extinct before we evolved...why should this not happen again?

Changing of environment is a habit of this planet...why think we control it? We don't! The workings of our planet does! We only are told we can do something to turn it over...I'm afraid to say - we can't! Small changes happen and even greater changes happen, we know of this. When is the question, not how, and by whom. Time shows it clearly, why did the dinosaurs die? And when? They could have lived happily for a long time, if not the workings of the Universe said otherwise..am I right? So do we...just as the dinosaurs we have limited time...don't you think? Gives a whole new perspective to life, and life in general.

No one on this planet knows if life has propagated elsewhere, that is my opinion..still being of sound scientific mind and being. Please say this isn't real. I challenge all naysayers to come forward with a better explanation.

Sorry for the lenght/size of this post, just needed to share,

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on March 04, 2013, 04:36:44 AM
The basic nature of humans does not allow for the proving of anything extra-natural. We had a reason to begin our interest in the drones and we have learned that the net is not the place to pursue these subjects. What possible good would come from us being told about "The Red Room" and its workers and placing the story told on the net. It will bring nothing new to our search. We are the first and only to mention this info so indeed we have shared with all on this. Maybe you should search it or forget it.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on March 04, 2013, 09:23:15 PM
Incidents like this sure tells us that not all that is given to us, newspapers and other media is not to be be trusted...but when there's a fire...you know..


No one on this planet knows if life has propagated elsewhere, that is my opinion..still being of sound scientific mind and being. Please say this isn't real. I challenge all naysayers to come forward with a better explanation.

Sorry for the lenght/size of this post, just needed to share,

EVS

Thanks EVS for your interesting essay and philosophy.

The Internet is a great place to study most all subjects.   The Internet is like water.  It can be poison or pure.

This I know.   We all saw the Ty photos of the Drone.   Then we saw the Issac Inventory photos.  With Issac we discover that the government knows a lot about the Drones.  With my Historical Research I discovered that "Drones" go way back in history...many hundreds of years, if not  thousands of years.  Drones are evidently not new.   We also now discover that Drones are hidden from our eyes by their 'cloaking' technology..[the birdcage].

The Drones are here...they're not going away.    We were all very lucky to be able to see them in our lifetime.   All of this was due to cell phone cameras and Issac coming forward with his XEROXed CARET documents.   Linda Howe also played a big part in this historic saga. 

The summer of 2007 was a great time for all of us. Wouldn't all of you agree?  A lot came together at one time to make it all happen.

   
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: The Leviathan on March 05, 2013, 02:29:56 AM
Listen and listen well, the drones will never be solved. The ability to produce the UFOCB effect is perfected and we will use it. Now as to facts, no more from us and never bother to ask. Since you know, you find them. We have explained much to one poster here and that is all. Enjoy the game for you will play it long time.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 06, 2013, 08:42:51 PM
Incidents like this sure tells us that not all that is given to us, newspapers and other media is not to be be trusted...but when there's a fire...you know..


No one on this planet knows if life has developed elsewhere, that is my opinion..still being of sound scientific mind and being. Please say this isn't real. I challenge all naysayers to come forward with a better explanation.

Sorry for the lenght/size of this post, just needed to share,

EVS

Thanks EVS for your interesting essay and philosophy.

The Internet is a great place to study most all subjects.   The Internet is like water.  It can be poison or pure.

This I know.   We all saw the Ty photos of the Drone.   Then we saw the Issac Inventory photos.  With Issac we discover that the government knows a lot about the Drones.  With my Historical Research I discovered that "Drones" go way back in history...many hundreds of years, if not  thousands of years.  Drones are evidently not new.   We also now discover that Drones are hidden from our eyes by their 'cloaking' technology..[the birdcage].

The Drones are here...they're not going away.    We were all very lucky to be able to see them in our lifetime.   All of this was due to cell phone cameras and Issac coming forward with his XEROXed CARET documents.   Linda Howe also played a big part in this historic saga. 

The summer of 2007 was a great time for all of us. Wouldn't all of you agree?  A lot came together at one time to make it all happen.

 

Thank you for the kind words, Douglas!

Sure this case brought many people together, this bond survives any attempt to say it never happened..because the event happened, true or false..still it is unsolved, challenged, yes..but not solved. As I stated earlier, we (as humans) only can wait for a sign that life developed outside our planet...and that sure is why we still look for an answer here.. difference of opinion will cross over, but in my mind, this case is still open. Shut when comfirmable evidence is put forth.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Reasoner on March 08, 2013, 11:24:37 PM
Hello all. First time poster. Have read through some of the later forum postings and am fairly familiar with the Drone Saga (although not comprehensively, I admit). There's probably a better location for a first post, but I like that this thread is the most current and seems to be a periodical sort of thread, from its title.

I have a sort of generic drone question and a specific question for one of the members.

I don't recall what the two retired investigators eventually found or came to the conclusion of. Is there a thread about this? Or can anyone summarize for me?

Also, for algae. I very much love that you set up that sky cam. I took a look at some of the pics. They weren't entirely conclusive for me, but they were very provocative. I was wondering if you had considered setting up more, or refining the optics on your cam(s) at all.

I guess one more thing... it seems to be a bit quiet here recently. I'm hoping that the board might become more active. Perhaps it's too focused on one subject (which is the theme of the site), and perhaps all that earnest and hard work might collaterally be applied to studying similar phenomena. I've been mulling over doing that myself, and you all seem to be similarly minded in proactive research.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 27, 2013, 09:41:39 PM
It's quiet in here because we think about the case, sometimes evaluation of things take time..in this particular case this might extend as neither the pro or con has won! So we take "ad notam" that the case is "standing". What more can I say, if no news comes forward, this case is "unsolved". Period.

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on March 28, 2013, 06:38:39 PM
It's quiet in here because we think about the case, sometimes evaluation of things take time..in this particular case this might extend as neither the pro or con has won! So we take "ad notam" that the case is "standing". What more can I say, if no news comes forward, this case is "unsolved". Period.

EVS
I have no information on those teasing photos.  I hope he posts them somewhere but you never know what will actually happen.

The case of the Drones is solved 90% as far as I'm concerned.   They're here, they've been here a long, long time.   The Drones are purposely cloaked so that we little humans are not aware of them. 

There could be one right over my house and I would never know it.  The space voyagers have been keeping an eye on Earth for a long time.   To them we're just like zoo animals. 

They're keeping a close watch especially on EVS..... :o ;D

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on March 31, 2013, 12:32:15 AM
It's quiet in here because we think about the case, sometimes evaluation of things take time..in this particular case this might extend as neither the pro or con has won! So we take "ad notam" that the case is "standing". What more can I say, if no news comes forward, this case is "unsolved". Period.

EVS
I have no information on those teasing photos.  I hope he posts them somewhere but you never know what will actually happen.

The case of the Drones is solved 90% as far as I'm concerned.   They're here, they've been here a long, long time.   The Drones are purposely cloaked so that we little humans are not aware of them. 

There could be one right over my house and I would never know it.  The space voyagers have been keeping an eye on Earth for a long time.   To them we're just like zoo animals. 

They're keeping a close watch especially on EVS..... :o ;D

Thank you, Douglas for thinking I'm that important..and a happy Easter to you too... :) ;)

Sure, if the drones are "hanging" above us, they sure know who you are..giving them away..!! :o  :D

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 10, 2013, 09:12:44 PM
Some say we live in a giant hologram..I will let you decide:

Holographic Universe (Part 1 of 5 ) its all illusion. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnvM_YAwX4I#)

Please continue through the entire 5 parts...simply click the youtube symbol above ^^ or continue here:

The Holographic Universe - 2 of 5 - Quantum Physics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hdtaLVuLts#)

The Holographic Universe - 3 of 5 - Quantum Physics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-rNjyLKV8#)

The Holographic Universe - 4 of 5 - Quantum Physics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0AFjKO9LbI#)

The Holographic Universe - 5 of 5 - Quantum Physics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFRz0vhY37E#)

--o0o--

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/holograuniv.php#.UWXEEzePPdw (http://www.messagetoeagle.com/holograuniv.php#.UWXEEzePPdw)

http://news.discovery.com/space/we-might-not-live-in-a-hologram-after-all-110701.htm (http://news.discovery.com/space/we-might-not-live-in-a-hologram-after-all-110701.htm)

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/12/05/the-holographic-universe-workshop-series/ (http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/12/05/the-holographic-universe-workshop-series/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 11, 2013, 01:08:30 AM
After watcing this you might ask if this is true..it might not be...just showing how reliable scientists can be manipulated into a belief that is distorting the real science..see the manipulation..this is what happened to the "California drones", as perception is individual...so any attempt to say it isn't true, is questionable...so come forward if you find this wrong..

Real quantum physics say that much of this is real....that's why I posted this. but can you really tell right from wrong?

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on April 12, 2013, 03:15:34 AM
After watcing this you might ask if this is true..it might not be...just showing how reliable scientists can be manipulated into a belief that is distorting the real science..see the manipulation..this is what happened to the "California drones", as perception is individual...so any attempt to say it isn't true, is questionable...so come forward if you find this wrong..

Real quantum physics say that much of this is real....that's why I posted this. but can you really tell right from wrong?

EVS

I read the comment above was written and signed by "EVS".    How do I know who really signed it?  "EVS" could easily be a fake person. :o :-\ :P
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 13, 2013, 02:57:15 PM
After watcing this you might ask if this is true..it might not be...just showing how reliable scientists can be manipulated into a belief that is distorting the real science..see the manipulation..this is what happened to the "California drones", as perception is individual...so any attempt to say it isn't true, is questionable...so come forward if you find this wrong..

Real quantum physics say that much of this is real....that's why I posted this. but can you really tell right from wrong?

EVS

I read the comment above was written and signed by "EVS".    How do I know who really signed it?  "EVS" could easily be a fake person. :o :-\ :P

Easily, Douglas  8)  ;D
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 05, 2013, 06:43:41 PM
Robotic insect: World's smallest flying robot takes off

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22380287 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22380287)

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6132/603 (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6132/603)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ONv5DZA7Y#t=12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ONv5DZA7Y#t=12)

EVS


Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 10, 2013, 10:23:55 PM
3D Printers, the new revolution in producing new items for any use

http://www.pcworld.com/article/212440/3d_printer_revolution.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/212440/3d_printer_revolution.html)

Amazing, look here:

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/engineers_pave_the/ (http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/engineers_pave_the/)

The 3D Printing Revolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP1oBwccARY#ws)

Printing a bicycle with a 3D printer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmxjLpu2BvY#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 14, 2013, 09:54:28 PM
Nano Technology Is The Future

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2123104/Scientists-use-worlds-fastest-3D-printer-create-amazingly-detailed-F1-car.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2123104/Scientists-use-worlds-fastest-3D-printer-create-amazingly-detailed-F1-car.html)

3D nano printing the next big thing in bio tech Video Reuters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epmaGHvjP6U#ws)

For the advanced reader:

http://people.clarkson.edu/~isokolov/ms062-063.pdf (http://people.clarkson.edu/~isokolov/ms062-063.pdf)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 14, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
The Latest News In Quantum Science

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130514112738.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130514112738.htm)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130513103803.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130513103803.htm)

http://news.discovery.com/space/higgs-hatin-the-vanilla-boson-strikes-back-130307.htm (http://news.discovery.com/space/higgs-hatin-the-vanilla-boson-strikes-back-130307.htm)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21829160.300-nothing-to-see-the-man-who-made-a-majorana-particle.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21829160.300-nothing-to-see-the-man-who-made-a-majorana-particle.html)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18612-knowing-the-mind-of-god-seven-theories-of-everything.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18612-knowing-the-mind-of-god-seven-theories-of-everything.html) (2010)

http://www.scientificamerican.com/topic.cfm?id=quantum-physics (http://www.scientificamerican.com/topic.cfm?id=quantum-physics)

Quantum Physics Microscopic Universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEuA7g9PXbI#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on May 31, 2013, 02:10:16 AM
Is there room for God in science?

Interested? Go to the Institute of Paranormal Science for the explanation:

http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=SPC&action=display&num=1332714566 (http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=SPC&action=display&num=1332714566)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 05, 2013, 04:12:01 AM
New information about the possible extraterrestrial life, go here:

http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=798.0 (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=798.0)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 08, 2013, 01:22:19 AM
Do physicists believe in God? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7VcLCwnpt4#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 29, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Finally news from CERN about "Dark Matter": (large lecture, so sit back and enjoy the new science)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSMUKoLXoQQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSMUKoLXoQQ#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzWaDwRIS2I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzWaDwRIS2I#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMh3IF1u3s4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMh3IF1u3s4#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HtqWfm0Uqg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HtqWfm0Uqg#)

EVS

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 21, 2013, 03:38:47 PM
Alien Engineering

UFO Files - Alien Engineering (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfIKfoeejfo#)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on August 11, 2013, 08:50:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence)

How energy can create matter - Six Billion Dollar Experiment - BBC (exerpt)

How energy can create matter - Six Billion Dollar Experiment - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cbaMj883c#ws)

The Large Hadron Collider - Six Billion Dollar Experiment - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHtvRE6Q4w#ws)

----ooo000ooo----

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/universe/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/universe/)

The Six Billion Dollar Experiment, Horizon-space (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaa0qo)

LHC - Six Billion Dollar Experiment 1/5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Coc1qyp3oU#)

Please continue 1/5

---o0o---

Higgs boson found, now what? (Inside Story - 5th July 2012) [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOMXc24D7dE#ws)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on January 11, 2014, 12:47:57 AM
Quantum Physics & Microscopic Universe [Full Documentary]

Quantum Physics & Microscopic Universe [Full Documentary] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpQdMM6Vr70#ws)

BBC Supernatural Science - Secrets of Levitation


BBC Supernatural Science - Secrets of Levitation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8BV4VFOwM#)

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 03, 2014, 09:38:23 PM
Nature by Numbers

Nature by Numbers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkGeOWYOFoA#ws)


The Fibonacci Series -- Egyptian Sacred Architecture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6S2dgJzz40#ws#t=15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6S2dgJzz40#ws)

Source: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/30/understanding-fibonacci-sequence-golden-ratio/ (http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/30/understanding-fibonacci-sequence-golden-ratio/)

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 20, 2014, 09:34:15 PM
Building for the Future: The Quantum-Nano Centre

Building for the Future: The Quantum-Nano Centre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi4q-ey5kms#ws)

Seth Lloyd on Programming the Universe

Seth Lloyd on Programming the Universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47TcQmYyo4#)


EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on July 06, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
I just watched this Disney film (1995):

Says a lot about Nikola Tesla..and Einstein...and how energy always stays, never dies.. I won't say more..if you want to watch
the whole movie..which I recommend!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114168/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114168/)

Powder 1995 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVhha4fjO4k#)

Something to think about...why has Disney so much interest in Tesla? Few know about him?

Open question...

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 09, 2014, 04:18:59 PM
Finding the 'God' particle could destroy the universe, warns Stephen Hawking
 
The Higgs boson 'God particle' could destroy the universe, Hawking says
Space and time could suddenly collapse - and 'we would not see it coming'
If scientists put too much energy in the Higgs boson the universe could end

Disaster very unlikely as physicists do not have large enough collider

Source:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html)

/EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 09, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
The Theory of Everything - Official Trailer (Universal Pictures) HD

The Official Trailer for The Theory of Everything
In Cinemas New Year's Day, 2015

The Theory of Everything - Official Trailer (Universal Pictures) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Salz7uGp72c#ws)

--o0o--

Stephen Hawking

The Official Website

http://www.hawking.org.uk/ (http://www.hawking.org.uk/)

/EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on September 11, 2014, 07:25:48 PM
Finding the 'God' particle could destroy the universe, warns Stephen Hawking
 
The Higgs boson 'God particle' could destroy the universe, Hawking says
Space and time could suddenly collapse - and 'we would not see it coming'
If scientists put too much energy in the Higgs boson the universe could end

Disaster very unlikely as physicists do not have large enough collider

Source:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html)

/EVS


There is great danger when you try to deconstruct an atom...at least certain ones for sure.

If you do manage to do this, you release a torrent of deadly radiation, heat and light.  This is not good and it will kill you...especially if you're close to it.

We have ample evidence of this at Hiroshima and elsewhere.

When God puts atoms together,  He expects them to stay in one piece.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on September 12, 2014, 01:57:40 AM
Finding the 'God' particle could destroy the universe, warns Stephen Hawking
 
The Higgs boson 'God particle' could destroy the universe, Hawking says
Space and time could suddenly collapse - and 'we would not see it coming'
If scientists put too much energy in the Higgs boson the universe could end

Disaster very unlikely as physicists do not have large enough collider

Source:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html)

/EVS


There is great danger when you try to deconstruct an atom...at least certain ones for sure.

If you do manage to do this, you release a torrent of deadly radiation, heat and light.  This is not good and it will kill you...especially if you're close to it.

We have ample evidence of this at Hiroshima and elsewhere.

When God puts atoms together,  He expects them to stay in one piece.


Yes, Douglas...when playing with fire... you know.. I'm sure we as humans can't (for now) create the end of the world..  :-) If and when
that happens, we won't feel a thing..it will happen at the blink of an eye...what better way to go is there? But sure, something to take very seriously.

/EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on November 01, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Boyd Bushman | Deathbed Disclosure: Documentary & Photo Enhancements - HD 1080p

Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFOs, aliens and anti-gravity ideas.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPfuZUEbhfc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPfuZUEbhfc#ws)


/EVS

This all may be real or not.  Its all very controversial.  Someone gave Mr. Bushman the photos...he never says who.

Check this out for veracity of the story.

http://www.tvqc.com/2014/10/boyd-bushman-ingenieur-lockheed-martin-parle-dovnis-mort (http://www.tvqc.com/2014/10/boyd-bushman-ingenieur-lockheed-martin-parle-dovnis-mort)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: danblast on November 06, 2014, 02:14:18 PM
I found Mr. Bushman very interesting. As well as the video but then the pictures of the Alien that his friends in the know sent him turned out to be pictures of an alien prop that was sold. This was definitive.

So now I'm conflicted he obviously was a very smart man but also did not double check the evidence sent him and seemed to gullible.

Confused.
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: Douglas on November 08, 2014, 06:20:25 AM
I found Mr. Bushman very interesting. As well as the video but then the pictures of the Alien that his friends in the know sent him turned out to be pictures of an alien prop that was sold. This was definitive.

So now I'm conflicted he obviously was a very smart man but also did not double check the evidence sent him and seemed to gullible.

Confused.

I do not think these aliens are real. I tend to agree with Dan on this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/Roswell-Alien-Comparison-Graphicx_zpsb097a472.jpg)


This alien is real imo.  I first saw this film the evening it was privately shown at a MUFON meeting I attended in 1994. It was about 30 minutes and the room was silent.  I have never doubted that it is totally authentic.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/alienss_zps1af611f3.jpg)

Oh btw, here's a little test question for everyone.  Does anyone know why there's a lighted Bunsen burner in the autopsy room?      We see it on the table in the lower left photo.   [If you were faking this, that's something you would never think of to include.]

Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 23, 2014, 03:08:55 AM
The Vonstern Magazine will continue posting here as usual. Equally posts will also appear here:

http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=VSM&action=display&num=1417578449 (http://evs4u.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=VSM&action=display&num=1417578449)

Thank you all for reading, and a Merry Christmas/happy Hannukah 2014!

EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 23, 2014, 03:30:11 AM
Boyd Bushman - His Last Interview: A Documentary on Area 51 and UFO's over Arizona

(This one won't go away as easily as my other posts):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlkH2EOHRMs

/EVS
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlkH2EOHRMs#ws)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on December 23, 2014, 04:26:50 AM
Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 & Aliens

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q

/EVS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q#ws)
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on April 01, 2015, 06:14:13 AM
Universe documentary 2015 - The mystery of the Milky Way -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg8kBFPttu0

/EVS
Title: Re: VonStern Magazine
Post by: EVS on June 18, 2015, 12:59:39 AM
What Time is It in the Universe?

http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2014/08/what-time-is-it-in-universe.html#.VYII8vntlBc

Direct YT link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWncwRTMKkI

/EVS