Drone Research Team

WITNESSES => Witnesses not yet identified - Report incomplete => : Diouf May 10, 2008, 01:58:43 PM

: Ty - California
: Diouf May 10, 2008, 01:58:43 PM
Big Basin , California. June 5th, 2007

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/diouf01/Leviathan6_DroneBigBasin1Ty_Enha-1.jpg)

1 - LMH Earthfiles  2007
Linda,
Enclosed you'll find the photographs i mentionned in the email, which were taken some time early afternoon on the 5th. These were all the shots we were able to get of the "mothership", as I've taken to calling it during a sighting that lasted probably around a minute or so. Now for the story!!

Fist of all, I've been a long time fan of C2C and have been listening since before even Noory hosted. Of course, i'm very familiar with your work as well and am quite honored to be able to submit something that i feel is so value to an ongoing investigation of yours! I caught up with the "Chad drone" story about a week after everyone else due to a backpacking trip that kept me away from the radio (also in Big Basin interestingly enough), but i've been hoocked ever since and am still besides myself with amazement that i suddenly find myself involved in it first hand!

On the 5th of this month, i was on a mountain biking trip with 7 others riders that i often ride with in the Big Basin aera near Saratoga, CA. We were about 20 minutes into it when the most specular "craft" appeared, i mean exactly that. It just came out of nowhere! It was rotating, slowly, but often changing direction from clockwise to counter-clockwise randomly. It might have been moving a little too, but it was hard to tell from our location. For the most part it was stationary. After a few seconds it vanished again. It was like a light switch being turned on and off! There was no special FX transition like on Star Trek. It didn't shimmer and fade and stuff, it just stopped being there in the blind of an eye.

I won't even bother trying to describe this thing in details because the photos will do a much better job than i ever could. All i know is that it was really, really big and looked like it came from the same place as Chad's drone. It has the same weird "upside down jellyfish" thing on the top, and similar looking ring structures. What was different here, though, was how much more stuff was on it. It had a ton of differents rings, all connected to a big column in the center, and a big long needle/poker thing coming down from the center surrounded by big curving tubes. If the drone was like a jet, this was like an aircraft carrier. I don't have to tell you that this thing is intense to behold!!!

We all stopped short and practically went over the damn handlebars! All 8 of us were frozen. I tried reaching for my camera but wasn't fast enough. It was gone just before i was ready to take a shot. Normally i keep the camera in a small backpack along with my usual outdoor stuff, but from that point on i kept it hanging from my wrist just in case i saw it again. Honestly, i didn't think i would get another chance, though. Here was the most amazing thing i had ever seen, and i had missed my chance to capture it! All i could think about was how i was going to explain this to everyone else i knew. Luckily we all saw it together, so at least i had that. We stayed frozen for another few minutes but finally "snapped out of it" and decided to take a break and regroup.

We spent a good half hour trying to figure out what had just happened. We all agreed thought that whatever it was, on the off chance that it happens again, we should do our damnedest to photograph it. I started filling everyone in at that point on the Chad drone too. Normally i don't share much C2C stuff with friends simply because most people i think it's nutso, but believe you me, after an experience like this, they were willing to listen!


So we go moving again and about a mile further into our trip it appeared a second time. This time it was about a mile closer too, which told us that it was stationnary. So that of course gave us the idea to get as close as we could to it! But it was just there for a moment that time. Within like 3 seconds it was gone. By the way i should mention that it made no sound when it appeared and disappeared. However, the mothership itself was making a noise when it was visible. if i remember, Chad describes a kind of low rumbling with hisses and crackles. This craft wasn't so much like that. It was more like a really low, kind of subsonic vibration with what sounded like really, really high pitched "clicking" noises on a regular interval. Like maybe every 5 seconds or so. It was super faint though, you almost had to hold your breath to hear it (which i was able to do for about 10-20 seconds before it vanished again)

Another two miles or so and the third appearance hit. this time we were right near it! We were working our way up the mountain and were right on the edge when it happened. And it hung there for at least a good minute or so, during which time i got all the pictures i could! All it really did was rotate. It was moving very slowly as well, but not much activity. It appeared a fourth time, about an hour later, but this time for literally like a split second. We didn't see it again after that. So i finally had my pictures, even if i nearly fell off the side of the damn mountain to get them!

Now here's the really strange part. One of the guys i ride with works for a bay aera newspaper and had some very interesting things to say about this. Although he was just as blown away by this as we were, it turns out that this was not the first time he had been made aware of it. Apparently about a year ago, a couple reports came in from somewhere in Saratoga about basically the same thing. This gigantic thing just appears in the aera and then switches off like a light again. Also, he received at least one photograph at the [illegible], but it was clear enough to be undoubtedly the same thing we had just seen. So of course we all ask him why we've never heard of this thing! He then goes on to inform us that in no uncertain terms, they were told to ignore the story entirely!! So he said i could send it to any madia outlet i want but that in all likelyhood it would just be ignored. So that's why i'm sending it to the one place i know will always cover stuff like this! I'm trying to find out now if he'd be willing to appear on the show to discuss this in details. I really do get the feeling that he's willing to talk about this. He isn't the kind of guy who likes to be pushed around, so i assure you he's not happy about having stories silenced!

2 - LMH mail to ufoupdates July 8th
From: Linda Moulton Howe <earthfiles@earthfiles.com>
To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:52:11 -0600
Subject: MUFON Investigation Shows Drone Photos Hoaxed
More Big Basin, California, Bizarre "Drone" Images
Big Basin Redwoods State Park, California, June 5, 2007:
Another eyewitness bicycling in a group, Ty B., emailed me on
June 11, about his June 5th encounter three times with the same
dragonfly-shaped "drone" as in the "Stephen" images. Ty B. hard
mailed to me 12 photograph prints of the object he said kept
turning slowly in the air not too far above where he and his
cycling buddies stopped to watch and he photographed. He is
willing to be interviewed and is currently trying to get some of
his colleagues to join him in an interview.
: Re: Ty - California
: onthefence March 07, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
You may enjoy the following set of "Ty" images (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/) that was given to the PIs by LMH around 2009. Click each one to see the detail:

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20001_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20001.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20002_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20002.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20003_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20003.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20004_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20004.jpg)

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20005_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20005.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20006_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20006.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20007_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20007.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20008_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20008.jpg)

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20009_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20009.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20010_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20010.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20011_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20011.jpg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20012_thumbnail.jpeg) (http://droneteam.com/images/ty/Ty1%20012.jpg)

edited: it was around 2009 that these images were made available to the DRT.
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas March 08, 2014, 09:58:50 AM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/Ty1002c_zps29cecdf6.jpg)
: Re: Ty - California
: onthefence March 08, 2014, 03:40:09 PM
Here are some enhancements made by rescaling portions of the 2009 images so that the panels can be seen better. 300% scaling (using Sync Lanczos3 method in GIMP).

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/enhanced/Ty1%20012-d-closeup-panels.jpg)

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/enhanced/Ty1%20010-a-closeup-panels.jpg)

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/enhanced/Ty1%20003-b-closeup-panels.jpg)

(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/enhanced/Ty1%20002-c-closeup-panels.jpg)
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas March 09, 2014, 08:27:10 AM
I edited this to possibly bring out more of the color and details.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/drone45456_zps62105cb2.jpg)
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas March 09, 2014, 08:39:18 AM
Here are some enhancements made by rescaling portions of the 2009 images so that the panels can be seen better. 300% scaling (using Sync Lanczos3 method in GIMP).
(http://droneteam.com/images/ty/enhanced/Ty1%20002-c-closeup-panels.jpg)

Here is my attempt to gain some light and contrast.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/Ty1002-c-closeup-panels_zps4172527c.jpg)
: Re: Ty - California
: danblast March 09, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
Honestly I can figure out how this is not all over the web and media more than it was. The detail is mindboggling. Combine that with Issacc's  information and how the two match up and it is incredible. The fact that the UFO community blew this off as an elaborate hoax makes me seriously wonder about how they are influenced, misinformed and misled.
: Re: Ty - California
: 10538 March 09, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
The drones showed me that ufology is only a dog an pony show.  The world is what it is and nothing can change it.  There is no sense in beating your head against the wall.  Life goes on, even if it's a lie.
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas March 10, 2014, 07:03:38 AM
danblast....and  10538
Honestly I can't figure out how this is not all over the web and media more than it was. The detail is mindboggling. Combine that with Issacc's  information and how the two match up and it is incredible. The fact that the UFO community blew this off as an elaborate hoax makes me seriously wonder about how they are influenced, misinformed and misled.

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MUFON is very jealous because the Drones were not discovered by any of their minions.....therefore, they ignore it.
: Re: Ty - California
: EVS March 21, 2014, 07:08:09 PM
I'm sure we (as Earth inhabitants) have been visited..by these "instruments" of rare origin..but it's true validity is hidden as always, because we are better off not knowing..we, the common man..sure we can make assumptions..are not allowed by government and other facilities to even think in the direction that this might have been a true event...seeing the hi-res photos, I'm leaning more and more to see this as a "slip" in the cover-up...and therefor it has to be silenced...by denial...from the governments that are "in the know"...I may be wrong, but I really don't think I am... does anyone share this opinion?

EVS
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas March 23, 2014, 06:08:34 AM
I'm sure we (as Earth inhabitants) have been visited..by these "instruments" of rare origin..but it's true validity is hidden as always, because we are better off not knowing..we, the common man..sure we can make assumptions..are not allowed by government and other facilities to even think in the direction that this might have been a true event...seeing the hi-res photos, I'm leaning more and more to see this as a "slip" in the cover-up...and therefor it has to be silenced...by denial...from the governments that are "in the know"...I may be wrong, but I really don't think I am... does anyone share this opinion?

EVS

I share your opinion....EVS.

All governments of earth are corrupt.   They're all complicit in keeping their populations in the dark on everything of significance.   We're all now living in the Matrix....government fraud, hoaxes and fakery are the order of the day.

 Today,  YouTube deleted Mark Dice's account.  He's made hundreds of videos exposing government fraud and hoaxes.  My Facebook account was deleted without warning when I posted evidence that the Sandy Hook School event was a hoax.... no one was killed on that day.

Remember ''Isaac'' said that someone was probably fooling around with the remote device that controls the cloaking ability of the Drone when Ty took his now famous photos.
: Re: Ty - California
: majicbar March 23, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
"I posted evidence that the Sandy Hook School event was a hoax.... no one was killed on that day."

That is totally delusional. I suggest that if indeed you think this that you find some professional help and try to get back into touch with reality. I am not sure why so many people are becoming this way on so many different topics, there has to be some kind of trigger, perhaps the NSA is planting some kind of mind altering material subliminally. Perhaps the idea is that if so much material is called into doubt that the alien presence and their objectives will not be any more weird or impossible than all that other crap. Even saying that I almost doubt myself, but it is the one thing that can explain so much of what is going on.
: Re: Ty - California
: danblast March 24, 2014, 12:37:31 AM
Doug you lost me there too. Sandy Hook was a preventable tragedy. Not all tragedies are conspiracies often they are what they are, tragic. To promote such a tragedy as a hoax is to not only dishonor the poor souls that lost their lives, but their families as well. Let alone keep the door open for it to happen again.

I respect your work Douglas, you just lost me on this though.
: Re: Ty - California
: EVS March 25, 2014, 02:10:05 AM


I share your opinion....EVS.

All governments of earth are corrupt.   They're all complicit in keeping their populations in the dark on everything of significance.   We're all now living in the Matrix....government fraud, hoaxes and fakery are the order of the day.

Remember ''Isaac'' said that someone was probably fooling around with the remote device that controls the cloaking ability of the Drone when Ty took his now famous photos.

This I can relate to, sure we can't trust the governments to release secret evidence...but when it happens (in this case) shouldn't it be a right to know? Publically, I mean?.. somehow we need to trust those elected guys...or is it better to keep ones mouth shut..??
Reminds me too much of the cold war games..I thought these days were over...we might think again..

EVS
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas March 25, 2014, 04:13:48 AM


I share your opinion....EVS.

All governments of earth are corrupt.   They're all complicit in keeping their populations in the dark on everything of significance.   We're all now living in the Matrix....government fraud, hoaxes and fakery are the order of the day.

Remember ''Isaac'' said that someone was probably fooling around with the remote device that controls the cloaking ability of the Drone when Ty took his now famous photos.

This I can relate to, sure we can't trust the governments to release secret evidence...but when it happens (in this case) shouldn't it be a right to know? Publically, I mean?.. somehow we need to trust those elected guys...or is it better to keep ones mouth shut..??
Reminds me too much of the cold war games..I thought these days were over...we might think again..

EVS

You cannot trust any elected official these days.  I suggest that doubters on Sandy Hook Hoax do a very simple Search on FaceBook, Google and in particular YouTube, using the words 'Sandy Hook Hoax'...there are literally hundreds of videos and articles on that topic that show in detail exactly how the fraud was planned and executed.  Its all there...if one cares to look.  The problem is that many people fear the truth.

EVS....you thought the Cold War Games were over.  Its much worse today than ever.
: Re: Ty - California
: hindu April 03, 2014, 04:03:33 AM
aloh a

it is news the Ty photo or the 2008?
: Re: Ty - California
: onthefence April 03, 2014, 12:00:17 PM
aloh a

it is news the Ty photo or the 2008?
The photos are not "new", they are just higher resolution than the ones presented in 2007, and therefore more detail can be seen in them.

Thanks for joining and posting your ideas and images (http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=590.msg9984#msg9984).
: Re: Ty - California
: 10538 April 12, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
MUFON is very jealous because the Drones were not discovered by any of their minions.....therefore, they ignore it.
Actually I think they had the first drone report.  Wasn't it Mufon's Tahoe report that was first but it did not go public until hours after the Chad report?

I really think there was another reason they ignored the drones but it has to be more serious than simple jealousy.  They could have easily taken up the drone cause and ran with it.  They could have turned it into a major cash cow if they were allowed to.  No, I think there is another reason for their reaction.  It could simply be that it was too real and would have caused grave consequences for them.  This is pretty much what went through my mind when I was at the Chad location with 11Aug.  At one point I thought that we had possibly went too far.   :o  I'm sure the witnesses felt the same thing but so much more so.  I can totally understand how Raj can falsify his actual location.  It took major balls to go as far as he did.  We will probably never know what it ended up costing him.  Basically, this is a forbidden subject.
: Re: Ty - California
: EVS April 16, 2014, 12:31:35 AM
It could simply be that it was too real and would have caused grave consequences for them.

Numbers, I could not agree more. Thanks for that clear statement!

Cheers,
EVS
: Re: Ty - California
: Douglas April 17, 2014, 03:49:21 AM
MUFON is very jealous because the Drones were not discovered by any of their minions.....therefore, they ignore it.
Actually I think they had the first drone report.  Wasn't it Mufon's Tahoe report that was first but it did not go public until hours after the Chad report?

I really think there was another reason they ignored the drones but it has to be more serious than simple jealousy.  They could have easily taken up the drone cause and ran with it.  They could have turned it into a major cash cow if they were allowed to.  No, I think there is another reason for their reaction.  It could simply be that it was too real and would have caused grave consequences for them.  This is pretty much what went through my mind when I was at the Chad location with 11Aug.  At one point I thought that we had possibly went too far.   :o  I'm sure the witnesses felt the same thing but so much more so.  I can totally understand how Raj can falsify his actual location.  It took major balls to go as far as he did.  We will probably never know what it ended up costing him.  Basically, this is a forbidden subject.

10538:

Very interesting comments.  I have some reflections.

MUFON ignored the Drones because they're too frightened?   That's hard to imagine.

UFO researchers have been writing about Roswell, Bentwaters, MJ-12 and many other events for decades.   

It seems a bit late to un-ring the Drones bell of 2007.   The cats out of the bag.   The Isaac Report, the photos and related items are all over the Internet.

Sadly Isaac made a mistake by not going public with a live videotaped interview with Linda Howe or Knapp.  I agree, the Drones are explosive but there is a way to handle it.   

D.... 
: Re: Ty - California
: 10538 April 19, 2014, 06:28:06 PM
Oh yeah.  Mufon wants to continue doing what they do, that is, searching for ET stuff.  They do not want to find them.  If they got even close to doing so they would be shut down (or worse) because that sort of behavior is not allowed.  They have a sweet deal going as is.  They are not interested in turning the world upside down.  Oh they love the nondescript light in the night sky.  Those never prove anything but keeps the search going.  What they don't want is up close and personal, in broad daylight ET objects.  That kind of stuff is crossing the line.
: Re: Ty - California
: EVS April 20, 2014, 01:49:37 AM
MUFON only relies on statements of witnesses that can be directly traceable..therefor a case like the "California Drones" is rejected.
too many people are involved...a radio show, a viral campaign..serious talks on the Internet.. it's too vile to dig into..but if we had the original photos, taken by trustworthy eye witnesses..what would then happen? If the Drones appearance really did happen, and I believe they did..too much evidence has come forward to this day, that I can't say it didn't. It's a matter of belief, sure, as always..but if we look to NASA 's new evidence, that there is a world like ours, where life may have propagated..maybe a long way away..and this is new evidence...why not think those people on that planet are way ahead of Us? And have found a way to travel cross the Universe? No one knows..NASA might find dinosaurs..or intelligent life..who's in the know? I certainly believe some people are in that know..but why we as common people are restrainted from excactly that, is beyond me..but please come forward with theories..

Enjoy your thinking..

EVS

Mirage Men teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14#ws)

http://kepler.nasa.gov/news/nasakeplernews/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=330 (http://kepler.nasa.gov/news/nasakeplernews/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=330)