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Hello all!

In this new section, you'll be able to read and comment all the news recently gather by iamiamiam that undoubtely give a new start to the drone saga.
omg, we are back!  :D
been thinking a lot of the drones lately
I'm no fan of TTSA and while I'd obviously welcome new relevant information it is my sincere hope that neither the 2007 drone stuff nor the Isaac/CARET stuff gets conflated with TTSA's agenda.
For the past 70 - 80 years, anti-disclosure authorities have maintained private control of 'core' knowledge, enforcing submission and secrecy, whilst enacting an active disinformation campaign against the public.

Remember that JFK was assassinated and the matter permanently covered up. JFK wasn't the first and he wasn't the last insider to be taken out. As a consequence to heavy threats, there are pro-disclosure individuals who largely conform to the anti-disclosure authorities. Yet the truth about E.T. visitation and reverse engineering activities has been shared. Unfortunately, the wider public are the last to know the facts - that we are not alone in the universe, nor alone on planet Earth.

It is critical that researchers understand the military connections with the development of Silicon Valley and it's subsequent history. For that reason, the (former) location of PACL is important.
8. In terms of PACL, which private defense firms have historically operated in Palo Alto with nearby facilities that match Isaac's description?
9. Whose personnel have a history of clandestine aerospace activity in Palo Alto?

10. Which private defense firm in Palo Alto was engaged in exceptionally classified information with the CIA and multiple other agencies including the USAF, NRO and ARPA?
11. Did they work with NASA as a civilian cover for military projects?

12. How did scientist, Dr Bernard Haisch, former Lockheed (Palo Alto Research Laboratory) befriend individuals who over a long period of time seem to be on the periphery of some kind of handling alien materials in "our" possession?

Behind the scenes of Eisenhower's military industrial complex-

Many years ago, DRT forum members Algae and Nekitamo identified two likely locations for PACL.
DRT member, Algae suggested:
Hanover St, Palo Alto, CA, USA
(Former) Lockheed Missile and Space Center (LMSC)
DRT member, Nekitamo suggested:
(Former) Hiller Advanced Research Facility, 1350 Willow Road, Palo Alto, CA, USA

Both facility sites have strong merit and they are in fact, organisationally connected. As part of a highly classified national reconnaissance and image processing program, called CORONA, Lockheed Skunkworks (together with the CIA) ran the aforementioned Hiller ADF (Willow Road) facility. According to the published information, Hiller personnel were not allowed on that highly secret site. 

The CORONA Program, Palo Alto, California.

With the former LMSC on Hanover Street, Palo Alto, there are connections with Dr Hal Puthoff and a string of other interesting associations to that site and those buildings next door.

Given what we now know about Exceptionally Compartmentalised Information (ECI's) and the Sentry Eagle program (courtesy of Edward Snowden), it's very probable that the highly clandestine CORONA program was one of the black 'covers' which hid the CARET initiative. 

NSA Sentry Eagle

Core secrets tie directly into the Dr E.W. Davis / Admiral Wilson notes. The suspected private defense contractor referred to in those notes may be Lockheed Martin. 

(Recall that Dr Eric W. Davis and Dr Hal. Puthoff are associates who are both engaged in the newly formed TTSA. Note also the TTSA and Lockheed connection.)

Where might PACL have been located?
Isaac- June 2007- "PACL was located in Palo Alto, but unlike XPARC, it wasn't at the end of a long road in the middle of a big complex surrounded by rolling hills and trees. PACL was hidden in an office complex owned entirely by the military but made to look like an unassuming tech company. From the street, all you could see was what appeared to be a normal parking lot with a gate and a guard booth, and a 1-story building inside with a fictitious name and logo. What wasn't visible from the street was that behind the very first set of doors was enough armed guards to invade Poland, and 5 additional underground stories. They wanted to be as close as possible to the kinds of people they were looking to hire and be able to bring them in with a minimum of fuss...

I heard from a number of people that PACL closed up shop a few years after I left, but I've still yet to get a clear answer on why exactly that happened. But I'm sure the kind of work we did there is still going strong. I've heard from a lot of friends that there are multiple sites like PACL in Sunnyvale and Mountain View, also disguised to look like unremarkable office space.

PACL may have been underneath one of the single story buildings on Hanover Street, Palo Alto - buildings which are now being replaced.

13. At the time of CARET in the mid-1980's, what were the company logos and signage displayed on the B204 and B205 Hanover Street buildings?

The following presentation by Roger K Summit on Dialog Information Services Inc is interesting.

The Lockheed Palo Alto Research Laboratory and Information Science Group:

14. Prior to 1997 and the rise of Google (and from around 1993 for that of Yahoo, Altavista, Lycos and Infoseek), how was the world's digital information originally retrieved?
An unassuming company DIALOG Information Services Inc, led the way. After working with NASA as its first client, that company eventually spun out of Lockheed, LMSC, Palo Alto in 1982. In 1988, Roger K Summit participated in the sale of Dialog to Knight-Ridder Inc.

Dialog started modestly as an in-house research and development project at Lockheed in 1963. At that time, an Information Sciences Laboratory was established (by Gene Duncan, ex-CIA) to deal with what was then recognized as the coming "information explosion." Two years later (1965), what was essentially the first truly interactive information retrieval system was on-line for internal company use. In 1968, Lockheed won a contract from NASA to design, program, implement, and maintain a computerized index for the half million documents produced by the American space program. Called RECON (Remote Console Information Retrieval Service), the development process enabled Lockheed to fine-tune the specialized information retrieval command language. In 1972, Lockheed, decided to offer a commercial service and officially named the system Dialog. The facilities were initially located on Hanover Street, Palo Alto, California. As might be expected, the hardware needed to handle the enormous amount of information contained within the Dialog system took over a large portion of its building.,_1966
15. Were those buildings in actuality also part of a black information systems and image processing project?
16. How does the military and LMSC historically connect with the adjacent 'Varian Associates' and Hewlett Packard Palo Alto facilities?

17. With Isaac's account, do archived photographs of buildings (205 and 204) reveal the signage of an unassuming tech company (with no visual connection to the Lockheed buildings B201-203 on the other side of the adjacent, central parking lot)?

1956 Lockheed Expands again: Mushrooming activity at Lockheed Aircraft Corp.'s Missile Systems Division has resulted in a 1,000% expansion of space planned less than a year ago for its new facilities in Stanford University's Palo Alto, Calif, industrial park. Lockheed now plans to start construction of a 51,000 sq. ft. laboratory, bringing to seven the number of buildings either completed or underway. It will also raise the Division's facilities to about 1,000,000 sq. ft. compared to some 96,000 sq. ft. it projected less than a year ago. The new laboratory will supplement two similar research buildings occupied in September and a 14.000 sq. ft. experimental building soon due for completion.

In the 1950's, Lockheed's rapidly growing missile division purchased 275 acres at Sunnyvale, California and a few months later, leased 22-1/2 acres at Stanford University in Palo Alto, some seven miles north. On the two sites, construction was initiated on $30 million worth of laboratory, experimental, research, and manufacturing buildings. Test facilities later were operated at Holloman AFB, New Mexico, Alamogordo, New Mexico, and later at the Air Force Missile Test Center at Patrick AFB, Florida.
"Buildings 204 and 205 stand side-by-side on a terraced site that was originally part of a 22-acre campus with a building complex constructed in 1956-1957 for the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation Missile Systems Division. The campus buildings were designed by architect Kenneth T. Thompson and built by McNeil Construction. Kenneth T. Thompson studied at the University of Southern California under Dean A. Quincy Jones, an important and innovative Southern California architectural modernist and urban planner. His firm was only active for about 16 years and his firm worked on projects for NASA in Pasadena as well as commercial/industrial projects in Los Angeles County."

"The campus originally consisted of five buildings: the two project buildings (Buildings 204 and 205); Buildings 201 and 202, formerly located at the upper terrace; and a smaller, linear building, Building 203, across the rear of the intervening terrace and parking lot. Over the immediately subsequent decades, the complex incrementally yet continuously grew and changed... with substantial amounts of equipment added and attached. Building 201, which was the first to be constructed and which provided central executive and administrative use, was removed and replaced in approximately 2010 by a new Lockheed building."

"An underground tunnel below the central parking lot originally connected Buildings 202 and 204. That connecting tunnel remains, but has been closed off."

(It's reasonable to assume that Building 203 was also connected to that same tunnel.
 18. What lies beneath the central parking lot of site 203?
19. If the Lockheed buildings were publicly identified by signage as Buildings 201, 202 and 203, what was the reason for needing an underground tunnel to connect to building 204?
20. What logo / signage did buildings 204 and 205 display to the public in the 1980's?

..."Lockheed moved the missile headquarters and manufacturing center into their Sunnyvale campus beginning in 1956. Simultaneous to their relocating their missile division headquarters and manufacturing center to Sunnyvale, Lockheed developed the Palo Alto facility as a research branch.

Records indicate that this building group was originally referred to as the Research Branch of the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation Missile Systems Division. Archival plans identify several of the original building uses, including Building 204, a chemistry and materials laboratory building; and 205, a facilities receiving, shops and laboratory building.

... In 1995, Lockheed merged with the Martin-Marietta Corp., creating Lockheed-Martin. Under Lockheed-Martin, the Palo Alto research unit became the Advanced Technology Center (ATC). Currently, both Buildings 204 and 205 are vacant and no longer a part of the Lockheed-Martin leasehold...

Stanford Research Park: Another historical context of the project site is the development of Palo Alto in the post-WWII period. Development of the Stanford Research Park, which the (former LMSC) project site is located in, is one element of that context. The Stanford Research Park occupies some 700 acres of Stanford University land and is an industrial, scientific and commercial park that is allied with the University. The Stanford Research Park was founded in 1951 as the Stanford Industrial Park and its first building opened in 1953 (Varian Associates)."
21. What triggered the sale of this prime real estate (lease) by Lockheed to JP Morgan?
22. Was the redevelopment an opportunity to demolish the old underground PACL complex?
I'm no fan of TTSA and while I'd obviously welcome new relevant information it is my sincere hope that neither the 2007 drone stuff nor the Isaac/CARET stuff gets conflated with TTSA's agenda.
*** 2019 NEWS UPDATE ***

For the benefit of all contributing members of the Drone Research Team, new CARET-related information will be published to the forum over the coming weeks.

In terms of progressing disclosure, 2019 has been an important year!

Where has the journey taken us and what have we learnt?

Dr Hal Puthoff in 2018: "There has been one leaked document - how it got leaked I'll never know - which is out there...that we were able to verify... it was a real document."

1. To which 21st century document does Dr Puthoff refer?
2. Have any researchers asked Dr Puthoff to identify the leaked document? 
3. If not the CARET document, then what would be the alternative?
4. In the past 10+ years, what other credible information has been widely leaked to the public (that can possibly compare to the sophisticated reports which were leaked by Isaac in 2007)?

Recent interview with Senator Harry Reid, by George Knapp (1st November 2019):
The ball started rolling in 2007...

5. Who was the DIA scientist that Senator Reid met with?
6. Why was SAP access denied to the senior congressional member, Senator Reid?

It's possible that the CARET "leak" in June 2007 enabled behind-the-scenes political action which initiated greater internal investigation of clandestine extraterrestrial reverse engineering programs.

Tomi's July 2018 post connects Tom DeLong's comment in August 2016 with the written comments on the TTSA website (attributed to Dr Hal Puthoff).

"One such program, initiated in 2007 by the DIA and carried forward by the DoD,has come to light - the so-called AATIP program (Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program)... It began in June of 2007. The Defense Intelligence Agency was concerned about the fact that obvious observation had shown that Advanced Aerospace Vehicles – crafts, or drones of unknown origin, were flying all over the United States, over waters, in fact globally as was the case. So a Congressional budget was approved to address the issue behind the scenes. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid from Nevada was the one who was the initiator of the program, joined by Senator Inouye and Senator Stevens. These are the people who generally approve programs that were in the black, under high security, behind the scenes, and so they set up this program."

Tom De Longe from TTSA:

It seems that June 2007 was a very interesting period. AATIP's initiation (the ball for that program started rolling in June 2007), plus TTSA's subsequent, gradual public revelations, may originate with the publication of the CARET report by Isaac in June 2007.

[AATIP - Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, TTSA - To The Stars Academy (of Arts and Sciences)]

The following quotes by scientist, Dr Bernard Haisch, former Lockheed (Palo Alto Research Laboratory, Hanover Street, Palo Alto) are also important. Dr Haisch published with Dr Hal Puthoff regarding Zero Point field research.

I myself am definitely not an insider, but contacts I have acquired and/or befriended over a long period of time seem to be on the periphery of some kind of inside which appears to contain at least remarkable information, and apparently more than that. Let me be (somewhat) more specific. I now have three completely independent examples of individuals whom I trust reporting to me that individuals they trust have admitted to handling alien materials in "our" possession in the course of secret official duties. And in yet two more cases, I am similarly one (trustworthy) step removed from a former head of a federal government agency who was involved with a special access program reporting decades-long extraterrestrial reverse engineering efforts and a head of state of a G8 country who also said he had been officially briefed on that program.
Sources tell me that this is merely the tip of the iceberg. A group of four related but separate unacknowledged SCI programs tracing back to a 1947 Truman memorandum still exist and were housed as of the 1990s in major aerospace companies such as for example Lockheed, TRW, Raytheon, Aerospace Corp. etc. These would be expensive programs since the cost of secrecy can be several times higher than the research. The AATIP program has no relation to these four much better funded deep black ones. Indeed, the black programs collectively have budgets in the $10B range and up. Topics apparently include both reverse engineering and extraterrestrial biology. The AATIP did find the UFO crash retrieval program via official channels, but was denied access to it because the AATIP itself is not a SAP. Sen Harry Reid petitioned the DoD to confer SAP status to the AATIP, but the DoD denied his request.

Zero point field research relates to recent US Navy patents-
2018 Patent, Inertial Mass Reduction Craft - US Secretary of Navy, reference Dr H. PUTHOFF

2019 Patent, Room Temperature Superconductor  - US Secretary of Navy

2019 Patent a compact, Plasma Compression Fusion Device - US Secretary of Navy
Unfortunately, such transformative science is still locked away under military control and not publicly utilised for planetary or civilian benefit.

Similar to Senator Harry Reid's 2007-2009 experiences, another senior official, Admiral Thomas Wilson, was also allegedly denied access to a E.T. reverse engineering program, approximately 20 years ago. According to the Dr Eric W. Davis notes (colleague of Dr Harold E. Puthoff), it's possible that private defense contractor, Lockheed denied program access to one of the most senior officials in the military. For more information, refer to the following detailed analysis:

In terms of disclosure progress, 2019 is a very different period than 2007. The US Navy (in September 2019) and mainstream commercial media (from May 2019+) have - after 70 to 80 years of denial and disinformation - finally acknowledged that UFO's are, in fact, real.

More news is pending, including additional information regarding the possible location of PACL CARET.
General discussion / Issac Caret Drone Symbols
« Last post by Nyabingi on October 04, 2019, 05:05:19 PM »
Hi there a bit about me i've been following along with the reports of sightings of these drones since they first appeared on the internet in 2007 i've unfortunately never seen one myself but have been very fascinated with them for a long time. anyway the reason for my post is that i've spotted the symbols being used in a video or symbols that look very similar to the ones in some of issacs photos being used in YouTube video alot of these look very similar.


General discussion / Re: Is anyone still here?
« Last post by onthefence on September 09, 2019, 01:06:40 AM »
Here is the namesake being used for real ...

The NASA "Dragonfly" "drone" mission to Saturn’s Titan:

"NASA's Dragonfly Will Fly Around Titan Looking for Origins, Signs of Life"

"it has eight rotors and flies like a large drone"

General discussion / Re: Is anyone still here?
« Last post by tomi on September 08, 2019, 09:21:49 AM »
Twelve years after the event, this mystery continues to occupy my curiosity. Does anyone else still follow it, think about it? Anyone keeping an eye out for new clues that might shed fresh light on this old subject? Anyone watching this group?

Tom Delonge in his Instagram post showed a picture of parts of the done and said "Guess what, it's true".   OK....................    This has me intrigued because I do think that To The Stars has good intentions, so this really has me intrigued.  Hi everyone.  Hopefully someday we will find out who done it or what done it..  If Tom Delonge has info I hope he shares it at some point.
General discussion / Re: Is anyone still here?
« Last post by spf33 on April 05, 2019, 04:26:23 PM »
Still here, real or fake, still intrigued.  I visit every few weeks or so to see if there's anything new.

I always keep my eyes open.

Noticed this a few months ago:

Seems Alienware is still interested.

Screenshot from:

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