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Some analysis with JPEG snoop

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knowhow:
If any of the photos are actually film based and then converted to electronic version via the developer, then the developer footprint should reside in the electronic file somewhere.  In my days before the Sony 72 I used a local company called Idaho Photo and you received a CD and had to use their proprietary software to view your own photos.  In fact, I would be surprised if the Sony software I use to download my pictures from the camera via USB ports to the computer doesn't have its signature somewhere in the final photo file.  It doesn't seem likely to me that somebody would use the Photoshop expensive and memory hog software to simply download pictures but of course it could be so. I think I will take a look at some of these photo files.
knowhow

onthefence:
Quote from: knowhow on August 04, 2008, 09:00:26 pm>>>>It doesn't seem likely to me that somebody would use the Photoshop expensive ...<<<<

I understand there are many people that do not pay for such popular software titles.

Maybe someone is hiding from the software police ;)

knowhow:
Well if anybody offended by the icky look of this, its Gfadam's fault...he got me started.  Here is the pertinent part of the Rajinder Picture 16 file including the ID of the software.  I will post picture 17 next and you can see it is the same ID.

Picture 16 Raj

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            xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
         <dc:format>image/jpeg</dc:format>
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            xmlns:xap="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/">
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         <xap:ModifyDate>2007-05-20T13:05:16-07:00</xap:ModifyDate>
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      </rdf:Description>
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            xmlns:xapMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/"
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            <stRef:documentID>uuid:19B542315206DC11B56B90D9F510219F</stRef:documentID>
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      </rdf:Description>
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      </rdf:Description>
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         <exif:PixelYDimension>1200</exif:PixelYDimension>
         <exif:ColorSpace>1</exif:ColorSpace>
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      </rdf:Description>
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/">
         <photoshop:ColorMode>3</photoshop:ColorMode>
         <photoshop:ICCProfile>sRGB IEC61966-2.1</photoshop:ICCProfile>
         <photoshop:History/>
      </rdf:Description>
   </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
knowhow

knowhow:
There is all kinds of stuff in here to check out.  Version dates, time differentials and who knows what.  If you all have seen this before, my apologies. If you have ideas as to where to go from here, let me know.

knowhow

Picture 17 Raj


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<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="3.1.1-112">
   <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
         <dc:format>image/jpeg</dc:format>
      </rdf:Description>
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:xap="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/">
         <xap:CreatorTool>Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows</xap:CreatorTool>
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         <xap:ModifyDate>2007-05-20T13:05:32-07:00</xap:ModifyDate>
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      </rdf:Description>
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:xapMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/"
            xmlns:stRef="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/sType/ResourceRef#">
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      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
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         <photoshop:ColorMode>3</photoshop:ColorMode>
         <photoshop:ICCProfile>sRGB IEC61966-2.1</photoshop:ICCProfile>
         <photoshop:History/>
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id="W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d software ID picture 16
id="W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d  software ID picture 17

majicbar:
As I am understanding it, the photo prints were scanned and then ported to Photoshop. In my computer setup it is possibble to have my HP all-in-one port its scan directly into photoshop, which I think is the way that Linda Moulton Howe had also handeled her scans of the Ty photographs.
Without locating the "witnesses", Chad and Ty, who sent their photos we will not be able to know what exactly happened and are left with the odd chance of hoax.

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