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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2010, 10:34:48 pm »
I believe they are a special hoax of some organized nature.

Does this mean that you believe the "Hangar Photo" in Isaac's revelation is a manipulated photo?

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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2010, 10:57:15 pm »
No, not at all.  I fully believe it is the one completely real photo.  It has no errors, no wrong shadows and it probably represents what they really do have.  Now where did it come from or what is it, I do not know.  Is the rest of the Isaac document real,I do not know, but this photo has (IMHO) much going for it.  It looks exactly like what it purports to be: parts resting on a concrete floor.

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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2010, 01:20:57 am »
No, not at all.  I fully believe it is the one completely real photo.  It has no errors, no wrong shadows and it probably represents what they really do have.  Now where did it come from or what is it, I do not know.  Is the rest of the Isaac document real,I do not know, but this photo has (IMHO) much going for it.  It looks exactly like what it purports to be: parts resting on a concrete floor.

The fact is that no one on DRT knows if any of the Isacc material is authentic.  Lev's attempt to cherry-pick his favs is a total waste of time and another way for him to sound authoritative. Who cares.

Besides that, the DRT discussion threads have pointed out many things that lead to the exact opposite conclusions on all of the Isaac material.  You can find tons of faults and positives in all of it.  Remember, this Isaac material is ancient by modern standards of communication, typesetting and photography.

Personally I believe all of the Isaac material is 100% authentic.  I will believe this until proven otherwise.  Can't we just leave it at that and continue our research!

To be fair, I do agree that the hanger photo is exactly what it appears to be.
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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2010, 02:52:34 am »
Personally I believe all of the Isaac material is 100% authentic.  I will believe this until proven otherwise.  Can't we just leave it at that and continue our research!

The entire case proves to be a difficult logic equation. I do have a problem with the word "believe" because it implies that you must know something without having all the facts ... and that applies to both sides of this case when the word "believe" is used. Regardless, we are all forced to believe things every day, for example, that our drinking water is not poisoned before taking a gulp, etc.

If we applied the CARET case to a logic circuit, we would find many connections between each witness case. I don't want to simply discount the entire case and all witnesses because there are some unresolved issues.

On the other hand, if logic is used, then each aspect of the case is woven together. For example, that tarmac photo shows pieces that are identical in the Ty, Stephen, and Raj photos. I find it hard to "believe" that the more recent photos could have been CGI copies of an original tarmac photo.

And to make things much more complicated, if the whole case is true, then I feel it raises many more side-issues about the phenomenon. For example, something like ESP would have to be in place to give people like Ted and Brent the feelings they had about the drones. This also includes possible reasons for witnesses to hide or deceive. Anyway, is ESP such a far-off idea, I haven't seen proof, but so many people around the world believe in ESP, how can we discount this side-issue?

I think if we broach the idea of the tarmac photo showing real parts, then it is quite likely that the Ty, Stephen, Raj, Tahoe, and Chad photos are all real parts as each of them include identical parts shown in the other images:



Of course, there are many more links in written and spoken testimony.

Douglas, in a way, I agree with you ... I don't believe it is all a hoax until proven otherwise. So far I've only seen some problems with the case, that is all. I would be cheating myself to stop researching it now, and I think that goes for a few other people also.
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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2010, 04:20:19 am »
I could not care less about any opinion about me or any re-entering of the case. I never left it.  I would go so far as to say the inventory photo is completely authentic and that suits my agenda.  Respect here is of no concern.
I have PMs from many here that I have kept confidential, but as you say who cares.  Logic will not bring you to the solving of this case just an acceptance so that it will recede into the distance.
BE SEEING YOU IN TIME
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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2010, 01:44:10 pm »
I believe they are a special hoax of some organized nature.  Yes indeed my work had nothing to do with the other drones at least that is my belief.

How could they since they predated your attempts, again trying to make yourself more important than you are.

Obviously you have artistic talent why not appreciate that and the importance of that gift instead of trying to make yourself more important by alluding a possible connection.
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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2010, 02:35:14 pm »
There is no PHYSICAL connection, but someone here has mentioned something else which I will not touch.  The inventory photo has aspects to it that have not been mentioned and that I find interesting.

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Re: Tahoe - California
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2010, 02:32:05 pm »

My apologies if the following post is considered off-topic. Perhaps it will be insightful and considered relevant to recent posts.
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Hitler had an agenda. In his quest for power he first barked and sought to be seen... and in his later days used others to wage his battles whilst he hid as a coward from the bombs dropped above onto the people he had betrayed.

He used the greatness of others until he had exhausted their resources, crushed their spirits, hopes and beliefs. He respected few if any, and burned the lives of millions as a result. He left a generation in conflict and despair. Decades of suffering followed because of his unnecessary and unwanted agenda forged to satiate his ego, his delusions and maniacal fantasies.

It is not for me to judge Hitler. I believe his historical significance is irrelevant to the newer generations born in an era of hope. His collective influence serves only to guide strategy against such future manipulation, to show humanity what it must not become -  ever - lest we seed ruin upon our species and our planet.

Today I believe he is viewed as a sad figure who thrust himself upon the stage to take advantage of a broken, leaderless people slaved in darkness, post the Great War and Depression. His early success fuelled the populace with lies and false truths until his agenda eventually reached its disastrous conclusion.

He was lucid and he led, but his uncontrolled ego and psychosis took over his mind, his people, Europe and the world turned down a terrible path. He thought he was being noble, but it’s clear that he was not. He possessed qualities by which he could have done good work and may have been held in high regard, yet all these qualities and efforts were wasted, smashed and rotten by his shameful actions and unchecked insanity. Faith and all else was destroyed.

If only he had possessed the same desire to look upon himself in equal measure as his desired agenda. Perhaps then he would have understood what it is to be noble as opposed to mad - to contribute to and not destroy. If only he had changed his path before it was too late. If he was a great man, a good man, a decent man, or ... just a man with grace within him.... he would have been helped if he had sought it. But he played his cards and those of his follower nation until he had no more to squander.

Yes, he was hated by the good men who put him down at great cost, but even more so by the people whose trust he had abused. He failed – and before he took his own life – he knew that he had failed.

What then humanity?
Consider that if you will.

Truly sad.
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Now back to the investigation  :)
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