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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2008, 09:15:09 PM »
Thanks OTF, take your time!! ;D

It's the hardest part we look at actually; when we will be more on residential areas, the landscape all around is quite different...
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2008, 12:30:25 AM »
Results for the grid n°9



- 9 is a very interesting pole, very similar to Raj's pole.





However, I have problems to really see this pole at all angles; Streetview shows the sun right behind the pole when facing South....

Things that are similar: Three/Two wires;crossbars....
Things that are differents: Insulators; too many telephone wires; angles wires at the top not correct; street lamps 200 feet away up to North, in Soquel Ave, but again, bulbous lamp, not the American Electric SRX-55 (55W SOX) lantern we expect to see....; trees??

Here's the KZM file , not sure if I record it correctly so let me know if there's any problem.
DivShare File - GRID3.kmz

On a side note, I found another similar pole, but it seems that it has been modified:



Next grid for me: n°18


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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2008, 11:05:22 PM »
Results for grid n°18:



Nothing special here. A few poles, but no match so far....

Next grid: n°17
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2008, 11:49:14 PM »
I worked a bit more on my Google Maps + Street View script and now it can be controlled by passing arguments in URL, like this:

http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap1.html?Lat=122.0237&Lon=37.3011&Grid=10&Spacing=0.0005

Explanation of parameters:
- Lat/Lon: location of top left corner of the grid (marked with "0"),
- Grid: number of grid squares in each direction (horizontal / vertical = Grid X Grid)
- Spacing: grid step (or density) in degrees, used for both latitude and longitude

The page opens with map centered on square 0,0 using maximum available zoom in satellite view. A click on the map updates streetview in the right pane (if available for selected location) and opens an info blob with precise coordinates which you can save as KML file or open it in Google Earth. Here's a screenshot:



The whole idea behind my simple project is to enable someone acting as search coordinator (elevenaugust, for example :) ) to use simple forum links for referral and distribution of search areas, like this:

User1: Square1, Square2...
User2: Square3, etc...

I'm open for suggestions to improve my script, although it seems pretty usable as it is and I'm already using it locally (it also works as locally saved .html file in the browser).

P.S. - it seems that my free hosting is down at the moment...  :(

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2008, 12:58:25 AM »
Wow!!
Really good stuff Neki!
I will probably use it for the Santa Cruz area.

Have you a suggestion for define exactly the 'masters' area to search in?
My ideas was:
1- Santa Cruz/Capitola/Aptos/Soquel area
2- The coast up to north SF
3- The coast down to south Moss Landing
4- Felton/Scotts Valley/Ben Lomond area
5- Los Gatos/Saratoga area
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2008, 01:10:45 PM »
Results for grid n°8 and 17:



Nothing special in these two grids.
- No street "flat" lamps
- Power poles with both two and three wires are very rare.
- No streets/poles orientation match.

Next grids: n°7 and 16. n°7 looks promising.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2008, 01:12:20 PM by elevenaugust »
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Part II : Pole Research Team
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2008, 01:36:22 PM »
I want to add that I had never took a closer look to Santa Cruz area (grids n°19 to 22 and further), maybe because that was for me a non-sense for Raj saying he was in Capitola while he really was in fact in Santa Cruz.
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2008, 01:37:33 PM »
A bit late, but here goes: Merry Christmas everyone! :)

I've added some new features to my grid search tool and replaced Lat,Lon input parameters (to avoid numerous recalculations of coordinates) with the single Spot=lat,lng parameter. Also, now you are required to doubleclick the spot you want to save/open in GE (single click still updates streetview pane) and if you click on corner markers you can easily generate neighboring grids and move on with your search.

I tried to emulate 11a's grid (had to implement new grid "form" factor parameter for that), here are the links:



Grid 1: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9608333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 2: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9783333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 3: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.96679241666667,-121.9783333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 4: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.96679241666667,-121.9608333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 5: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9433333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 6: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9433333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 7: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.99154091666667,-121.9608333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 8: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.99154091666667,-121.9783333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 9: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.99154091666667,-121.9958333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 10: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9958333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 11: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.96679241666667,-121.9958333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 12: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9258333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 13: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-121.9258333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 14: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=37.00391516666667,-121.9258333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 15: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=37.00391516666667,-121.9433333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 16: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=37.00391516666667,-121.9608333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 17: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=37.00391516666667,-121.9783333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 18: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=37.00391516666667,-121.9958333333333&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 19: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=37.00391516666667,-122.01333333333329&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 20: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.99154091666667,-122.01333333333329&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 21: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.97916666666667,-122.01333333333329&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071
Grid 22: http://nekitamo.uuuq.com/gmap.html?Spot=36.96679241666667,-122.01333333333329&Grid=35&Spacing=0.0005&Form=0.7071

This should be it, for a while... hopefully, now I'll continue searching for the poles, instead of tweaking my script all the time. I intend to publish it for public use later, but it can wait until we're done here.
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2008, 05:17:54 PM »
Amazing work, Neki! :o

I'll try our new toy  ;D this evening for the grids 7 and 16.
Next steps for me:
1- Create grids n°25 to 37 (from Aptos, Capitola North, to Santa Cruz.)
2- Define general areas to search, after Capitola area.

For the point n°2, Frank said that the key is the street lamp pole, and I agree that we should define our research according to this.
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2008, 06:20:40 PM »
Just checked 600 Bostwick Santa Cruz...As poles go, not even close when up & personal.....Interesting area, dirt road into the houses off of Soquel Ave....If you wanted to hide pole, good place to do it..................

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2008, 11:13:40 PM »
Thank you Frank.

Just finished to check grid n°7.
Some things remind me of Raj's pics, but no match again. :(



Cottonwood trees on Bay Ave:



Next grid n°16
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2008, 11:48:07 PM »
By looking randomly around there, I found a place where it seems there are "American Electric SRX-55 (55W SOX) lanterns": in the Alameda area.




It's the first time I see this lamp (or a very similar model) with Google Earth/Maps.
Moreover, I haven't seen it yet alone, but always attached to a power/telephone pole.

Pole hunters, maybe we are close!! ;D ;D
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2008, 12:13:54 AM »
Another with more similarities:

- Lamp
- Two wires pole
- Sequoia trees like in pict n°18



However, the cottonwood trees are missing.
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2008, 02:16:04 PM »
instead of tweaking my script all the time.

Well it shows !!  :) ,....great stuff, this option should have been in Google Earth from the beginning when they started with the streetview option.

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2008, 06:26:24 PM »
Or, if you're interested, it could also be hosted here and presented as a tool developed by the DRT forum (I wouldn't have done it if it weren't for this site, anyway)?

It is now available here:

http://droneteam.com/gmap.html

Thank you Nekitamo!