Author Topic: Part II : Pole Research Team  (Read 34353 times)

Offline nekitamo

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2008, 09:50:43 AM »
Working with OTF trying to find the pict 13 and 14 location.  OTF discovered this possibility.



Here is th apartments' website.  It's called Avalon Campbell.
http://www.avaloncommunities.com/avaloncore/nneigh.asp?commname=Avalon-Campbell

This could be it, as those apartment buildings seem to be properly oriented to match this shadow in pict #14:


It could be one of the buildings, but there's no streetview from inside the complex so we'll probably have to wait for the PI's. Also, buildings are not white in Google streetview, but they are in satellite view and MS Live Search bird's eye view.

Also, I forgot to mention this - in the spirit of our "NDA" for this closed forum board, I leave the decision about publishing my find completely at the DRT's discretion.
Btw, I did mention it to my wife, but she was watching her favorite TV show and just said "Oh, really?" without even looking my way. :)

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2008, 10:24:38 AM »
I don't think the house is located inside the Avalon Campbell complex, as it seems they are not wood made



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Btw, I did mention it to my wife, but she was watching her favorite TV show and just said "Oh, really?" without even looking my way
Héhé! I haven't said a word.... :-X
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2008, 10:57:11 AM »
More Avalon Campbell apartment images here...


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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2008, 11:24:28 AM »
Some houses to check:


Three interesting houses here.

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Seems like Campbell apartments ARE wood made, good catch Neki. We are close!

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2008, 11:45:21 AM »
You also have a "360° virtual tour" of the Campbell apartment here, including courtyards, pool.....
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2008, 02:17:06 PM »
Also, I forgot to mention this - in the spirit of our "NDA" for this closed forum board, I leave the decision about publishing my find completely at the DRT's discretion.

Just some notes of consideration:
  • Releasing this info could alter chances of finding more about the photographer, you may want to wait until the PIs do a check of the area and possibly ask some questions.
  • There is no indication yet of EXIF time-of-day tampering. we await the discovery of PICT13/14 location to see if someone could walk/run to PICT15 in 43 seconds.

My vote, I don't care how it is handled. Releasing the info now may even force the photographer to come clean, especially if he thinks that the PIs will be knocking on his door today ;)


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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2008, 02:20:53 PM »

Also, I forgot to mention this - in the spirit of our "NDA" for this closed forum board, I leave the decision about publishing my find completely at the DRT's discretion.

Thanks Neki. Yes, we need a few days to work on the spot, etc...
But I see a nice possibility, for people to learn from this research,
which is to move Dec 19th thru Dec 22nd to the Public view...
Then moving more posts to the open as we keep searching.
This way, people would see the film unfolding, almost in real time
and understand/respect the good work.

This is why I did split the Topic, and now this
Pole Research Team  « 1 2 3 »
can be moved to public...
« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 02:49:28 PM by Nemo492 »
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2008, 04:00:11 PM »
The Avalon apartments do seem to be the likely spot for picts 13 and 14. 




The only part that does not fit is the photographer, according to the timestamps in the exif, would take picts 13 and 14, run across the tracks and down Kennedy about 200 feet, stop, turn around and then take pict 15. I guess that is possible but I'm having a hard time running the scenario through my mind.


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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2008, 04:33:00 PM »

It could be one of the buildings, but there's no streetview from inside the complex so we'll probably have to wait for the PI's. Also, buildings are not white in Google streetview, but they are in satellite view and MS Live Search bird's eye view.

I also noticed apparent differing colors.  It seems that Birds Eye is much older than Streetview.  It is possible the apartments were recently painted.  Also remember the Raj pics had a reddish hue to them.  That may have distorted the color somewhat.  I have run the pict 14 though photo software and adjusted the color and the building corner does come out more gray.

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Also, I forgot to mention this - in the spirit of our "NDA" for this closed forum board, I leave the decision about publishing my find completely at the DRT's discretion.
I was wondering if we might hold off going public until we have not only given the PIs a chance to investigate but also to digest this new information and put it into perspective against the Raj report and emails.

« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 04:44:07 PM by 10538 »

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2008, 08:42:57 PM »
I was wondering if we might hold off going public until we have not only given the PIs a chance to investigate but also to digest this new information and put it into perspective against the Raj report and emails.

I can even heard some people saying: "Neki is the hoaxer"!! ::)
I vote we take our time before release any info to public.
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2008, 10:36:37 PM »
I was wondering if we might hold off going public until we have not only given the PIs a chance to investigate but also to digest this new information and put it into perspective against the Raj report and emails.

I can even heard some people saying: "Neki is the hoaxer"!! ::)
I vote we take our time before release any info to public.


Yes, with their way of reasoning their is a good change that they suspect Nekitamo after release  ::)
The only downside I see when not releasing the rest of this topic, is that the rest of the DRT forum members are kept in the dark.
Is it an idea to give some trusted members an PM about this new info?

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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2008, 12:01:39 AM »
It's in Campbell, not Capitola!

holy crap!  nice job!
little late to the party, guess i should have logged in last night...



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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2008, 02:26:50 AM »
this is roughly where the drone would have been:


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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2008, 02:34:35 AM »
...above a reflective white roof-top...
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Re: Pole Research Team
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2008, 04:28:24 AM »
hpo drone model imported into google earth looking down kennedy ave, facing west. 
pole  height ~40', drone altitude ~110'
drone in raj pic16 position: