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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 02:23:27 pm »
My Blog site has an enhanced version of one of the frames.  It suggest to me no bird or insect was involved.  Whatever this was it was quite different.
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 11:51:44 pm »
...there's 10 meter distance between each consecutive frame and the object is only a few meters in diameter.

Basically, what I'm saying here is that it would be possible for an object ~160ft high carried by the ~20mph wind to get in and out of your camera's FOV in approximately 20 seconds - but only if its direction agrees with the general wind direction at the time. As I know neither your location nor the directions in your camera's images, I can't tell if this is the case - so it's your call.

You have a persuasive argument for the object being a balloon. Advertising balloons of this size are common here and surely must get loose on occasion, and although the prevailing winds are west-to-east, I have seen north-to-south cloud movement often enough to make your scenario possible.

Of course, if the object is 187500 miles up, it must also be miles in diameter. Yikes!
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 08:52:57 pm »
DroneCam caught something interesting today, April 20, 2012, at about 11:22AM PDT.



At first I thought it was a bird sitting on the wire, but it's nearly as tall as the wire spacing - 2 feet! It could be another balloon, except it pops into and out of view instead of sailing across.

The sequence of 19 frames is here:
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0001.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0002.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0003.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0004.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0005.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0006.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0007.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0008.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0009.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0010.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0011.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0012.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0013.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0014.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0015.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0016.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0017.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0018.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122_0019.jpg

I was in my back yard both before and after the time of this sighting and never saw it. That's how easy it is to miss rare events such as this.
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 [edit to add] A short (and borderline-eerie) .AVI taken from the original is here:
http://home.comcast.net/~algae/UFO120420-1122.avi

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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 09:32:47 pm »
Very good work, algae!

Let's see if the scentific experts of this forum can help deciphering this evidence..?

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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 02:35:56 am »
Now if you could gang the DroneCam to a computer and have the computer direct some slave cameras to image in fine detail the objects that it is seeing, you might very well have the kind of system that could actually catch a drone in all the fine detail needed to kick this case in the rear and get things going.

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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2012, 11:11:50 pm »
Now if you could gang the DroneCam to a computer and have the computer direct some slave cameras to image in fine detail the objects that it is seeing, you might very well have the kind of system that could actually catch a drone in all the fine detail needed to kick this case in the rear and get things going.

Usually, better equipment gathers better data, and if we knew where a drone would next appear, we could set up a camera system such as you describe and collect stunning images.

But we don't know where a drone will appear. The surface area of the Earth is 500 million square km, and I've got maybe 1 sq km covered. What we need is not better eyes, but more eyes on the sky.

My feeling is that ANY new sighting of a drone would be enough to kick this case in the rear.
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 12:44:05 am »
It might be that new info on the Drones is being kept quiet due to the ridicule heaped on the head of any one reporting them from "YOU KNOW WHERE".  The Ridicule/Humor thread weapon used at that site is very effective as is its purpose.  Certain posters at that site can be found all over the net, where any phenomena is reported, with the same attitude.  To some, this appears as coordinated disinformation with a definite agenda.  There could be a Trojan Horse here.
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 09:22:51 pm »
Many thanks to you all for showing the view...on a topic that is ridiculed as much as this case!!

Sure if it wasn't for the simple (and I mean simple) ridicule, much more information on this case would be revealed.

It somehow stops many people from finding the truth when an issue is put to the stand of the masses, much like any other
cases are...we really need to find a way to confirm this case, just as what is done here...otherwise it will wither and die!

Thank you all for your effort! Really greatly appreciated!! ;)

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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2012, 03:25:09 am »
There are those here who know things and choose not to write of them except in PMs.  The abusers at one UFO site are truly sick and will never know any truth about this case.  Its longevity is is unprecedented and one might ask why the ridicule squad has not moved on.  There is a reason for that and their leader is transparent from his many negative dissertations that define his biased and immature world view.  No UFO case has ever been proved to the public and never will, that is the nature of the beast.  A mind that is confined to the apparent reality that human senses bring is one that deserves that confinement and is best left deep in the dark so that the child brain will not interfere with the adult will.  This case is concrete in the minds that need to know the rest should go out to play with their toys for now.
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2012, 12:02:02 am »

DroneCam caught something interesting today, Aug 19,2012, at 10:20AM, about 3000hrs into the survey:

I know it looks a little like a Drone, but two discrepancies give it away. First, it only lasts for a single frame -- one second of real time. We don't think Drones do that. Second, look at the frame just before this one:

There is clearly a bird in the frame. I've got to put one and one together.

Sorry it's not the Drone evidence we're looking for, but I intend to review 10000hrs before I quit. We may be able to say something about the probability of a Drone sighting by then.
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2012, 02:25:23 am »
Please keep going, it sure looks like the BB drone!

Who says it isn't a drone? They might appear and dissappear in the glimpse of an eye! If they are "Inter Dimensional" beings they simply drop in as your photo shows!

You might have cought something our
photo analysists might want to look at, at closer view!

Good work!
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2013, 10:18:41 pm »
@Reasoner:
Welcome to the DRT Forum.

I'm now about 6000 hours into a 10000-hour survey of the sky above my house. I live near the so-called "North Vertex" of a diamond-shaped area defined by the locations of some of the major drone sightings in California. Some think I may have a better-than-average chance to catch a glimpse.

No one has yet captured moving images of a Drone, and I'm interested in their motion: How do they enter the scene? Do they drop down from space? Do they pop in like Mr. Mxyzptlk? How does wind affect their flight? Do they fly at night when they think no one's looking?

I've had to change a few operating parameters since starting the survey. It soon became obvious that artifacts in compressed video made bad evidence for detailed study. I am now capturing full, uncompressed video (~1Mb/frame). A ten-minute file is way too big to upload to my site now, so I've stopped that.

I capture 1 frame/second and play back at 15 fps. I can recognize common flying objects like birds, bugs, and planes at this speed, so I can usually review a day's data in less than 2 hours. I could not devote the time necessary to review data from two or more such cams. I need help.

The camera is readily available from Orion Optical. The only mod I made was to add additional light baffling to keep direct sunlight off the sensor. If you want to contribute to Drone Research, if you are a Team player, if you can "put your money where your mouth is," this is one way to do your part and keep the Forum active.
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Re: DroneCam
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2013, 08:37:37 pm »
Excellent! Daunting :(

It would almost seem an easier task if a pod of people were assigned per skycam... divvy out the work so it's less stress than one person trying to parse through it. Also don't know how intensive it is on your memory space for whatever machines yer using for this.

I've just started, but I've been looking for software that might help in aircraft profiling, something that would be running while filming, tag appropriately targeted items, provide profile to a target and time of profile, spit out data to a text dump. With things like birds and bugs? I dunno. I haven't found anything yet anyways.

And your statement of put up or shut up... is exactly what I'm looking for. I'd like to talk to people who do this, so I won't have to reinvent the wheel. Sky Watch is defunct, so I don't know how to contact any of them, and I think algae is farther along than they are in terms of technique. They supposedly had a web of viewers, but I don't know their coordination levels. Plus Sky Watch wasn't about drone but UFO in general, where you, algae, have a drone focus. Perhaps a tighter web at a specific area of the sky would get better results anyways. I'll keep looking into how to do such things, and when I get something up and running, I'll attempt to get in touch with you, and perhaps we can coordinate.

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Re: DroneCam
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2013, 03:59:21 am »
One thing I've been considering is getting a quad copter or something like it wit a camera up and working... I guess a drone to record a drone? Not sure if that's even the place to start. The good thing about the sky camera is that it's working while you are not. The quad copter would only be good if you are there near the object you want to inspect. But you could get up close! But it'd have to be present with you around. I've been going back and forth on this. I think getting my own sky camera is probably the best start. I'll note the parameters that algae has set his to, and give it a trial run. I think it's best to start as low on the scale of observation as possible and then I'll start refining as I get results.