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For what it's worth, I've always considered the LAP drawings to be a dubious and disjoint aspect of this epic.  They are fun, the renderings themselves are excellent productions, and the actual original motive for making them might be interesting in its own right (concept art for some sci-fi movie maybe, with lettering added after the fact? etc.)  But in my mind they have always been over-stylized for their stated purpose, and from a functional perspective they suffer from issues that I believe would prevent them from serving as an active technical specification for a device.  Including but not limited to overlapping/intersecting and not-fully-joined "lines of connectivity" and gratuitous artsy elements such as the shadings of the octal junction.  Sure, it could be sufficiently advanced technology that to me only looks like art (instead of magic), but I'm inclined to lean toward the simpler explanation which is they are just works of art for emotional effect.

That said, I do not think phony art would take away from what in my regard is the most important component of the entire kit, which is as I've always suspected a clever and multilayered work of disclosure psyops.  That is the information about RSR as described in the Q4-86, which I believe is the only ground-breaking revelation and the only technology involved that fits my personal beliefs of how alien vehicles might actually be implemented.  It is brilliantly simple in concept, as most fundamental innovations are, and it is truly and sufficiently alien.
General discussion / "Doughnut" shaped ufo's spotted in England.
« Last post by Hamish on June 27, 2021, 02:25:39 am » Pretty interesting spotted a month ago over England UK. Im pretty sure i can see appendages on one of the ufo's aswell as there central hole around the 0:28 mark as the ufo rotates.
News / Re: Witness comes forward: Christian Morin
« Last post by Hamish on May 09, 2021, 01:20:18 pm »
exciting news!
can't wait to hear his story.
did he take any pictures?
Hi spinnewise. Unfortunately all attempts to contact the CARET/Dragonfly Drones Facebook page administratior and Christian have been unsuccessful. Itching to hear more of his story.
News / Re: Witness comes forward: Christian Morin
« Last post by spinnewise on May 04, 2021, 07:54:02 pm »
exciting news!
can't wait to hear his story.
did he take any pictures?
News / Witness comes forward: Christian Morin
« Last post by onthefence on April 30, 2021, 06:39:14 pm »
A new witness came forward recently. I was informed on 2021-04-30 about this, and it appears that it showed up 4w ago:

Anyone with access to Facebook might "type caret/ dragonfly drones into Facebook it will bring up their page". and hopefully encourage this person to come here and tell more of their story./
General discussion / Re: VonStern Magazine
« Last post by spinnewise on April 05, 2021, 05:22:08 pm »
happy Easter everyone!
General discussion / Re: VonStern Magazine
« Last post by onthefence on April 01, 2021, 03:02:49 pm »
I'm back!

Happy Easter everyone!


Happy Easter to you too!

Drone related? / Re: Bob Lazar - UFO - Propulsion - S-4, Area 51
« Last post by DroneTeamNews on February 27, 2020, 07:41:55 am »

The whole thing fascinated me, especially these two "CARET" related items:

Strange writing mentioned at the 27:22 mark
"At one point in time when the disk was energized, one of the archways became transparent and you could see the area outside of it just if the archway was a window. After the panel had been transparent for a while, a form of writing which was unlike alphabetic scientific or mathematical symbols I had ever seen began to appear on the transparent archway, and I was never informed as to how all of this was achieved."

Invisibility mode mentioned at 31.36 mark:
"When gravity field is on ... the disk can't be seen from any vantage point , and for all practical purposes is invisible. "

For reference, here is simple comparison of symbols drawn by Bob Lazar to the CARET symbols.

Also, from earlier posts:

The iBeam symbols drawn by Jesse Marcel Jr

Also, compare the design elements of the CARET / LAP symbols to those recalled by Betty Hill.
For those who haven't seen it, here is Linda Moulton Howe's 2015 summary of events in 2007.

An e-message was sent to Isaac, but no response was received.

Achieving an effective communication path with Isaac will be challenging because:
(1) all digital messages can be monitored / intercepted / interfered with
(2) given his previous disclosures, Isaac (the esteemed JPL scientist) will need to trust that messages are exchanged with a potential 'friend' (not an actual 'foe').
(3) Isaac may be unwilling to take additional risks answering community questions [even if a trusted/ secure communication channel is established and his choice to remain anonymous is respected + responses stay off-the-record].

Given the CARET disclosures had limited affect in 2007, denial in 2020 may be a simpler route for Isaac than his admission of involvement. [Google - "Isaac" "CARET" "PACL" - and there is minimal information available, only 4160 search results.]

How can Isaac distinguish friend from foe? [He would be aware that agents can pose as 'friendly' in order to 'catch' him breaking his NDA again. Despite his efforts toward anonymity, the esteemed scientist fell silent in 2007, and by logical inference, it is likely that Isaac and family were threatened into submission. As a second security breach might prove fatal, a careful approach is necessary.]

To maximise the chance of a successful outcome [admission from Isaac with possibly further PACL documentation], the best path involves engaging public figures with a demonstrated track record of progressing disclosure. In order to establish trust, Isaac needs to be able to verify that any individuals who contact him are not agents. If Isaac feels at risk because he has not been approached in a safe and secure manner, the default response available to him his denial of involvement. Such a negative result does not assist the UFO community in learning more about the CARET program.

The DRT is trying to build a credible team that can potentially contact Isaac in a non-digital manner. Thirteen years ago, Isaac trusted LMH enough to communicate the CARET materials in his possession. Perhaps in 2020, Isaac might also be able to verify and trust that Richard Dolan is a respected, professional in the UFO research field.  Further outreach to both Linda Moulton Howe and Richard Dolan is anticipated, however, no additional updates are currently available. It may take time to build the necessary level of trust and find a non-digital means to directly establish dialogue with Isaac.

Please be aware that the chances of successful communications with Isaac are very low. Denial or no response are more likely outcomes for this endeavour. However, genuine and sincere effort is being made for reputable professionals in the field of UFOlogy to contact the esteemed JPL scientist, who the DRT identifies in all probability, as being Isaac.

For interest, here is video testimony of Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin regarding the "symbols of instruction" and the reverse engineering activities which were detailed by Isaac in his account:

"What happened was [President] Eisenhower got sold out... he lost control of what was going on with the entire UFO situation... he trusted too many people... I think that he realized that all of a sudden this matter was going into the control of corporations, that could very well be used in detriment to this country... He realized that he was losing control, he realized that this phenomenon of whatever it was that we were faced with was not going to be in the best hands... that was a real concern and so it has turned out to be."
Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin
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